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  1. #31
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    Re: Has Terell Suggs silenced the critics?



    Suggs is a beast on gameday and he's just entering his prime. More importantly, he's a playmaker. Maybe not quite the caliber playmaker of Ed Reed or Ray Lewis, but edging closer to that level all the time.


    I dont disagree. I just think that Suggs will require more, and will be asking for more money and he is younger. I think there will be more teams after him thus making it harder to keep him a Raven.

    My insight was not play-based, it was market/player based. Suggs seems like a "cash in" player.

    Scott already showed himself to take less (from the Stains) a few years ago because he liked it here.

    That is what my opinion was based on.




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    Re: Has Terell Suggs silenced the critics?

    Let Suggs go - He is going to want - and someone will be willing to pay - more than we need to spend on him.

    Hopefully we can keep Scott and Ray. Assuming neither of them are looking for a big, big payday we can at least keep those two.
    Keeping the purple flowing way out on the West Coast!




  3. #33

    Re: Has Terell Suggs silenced the critics?

    Screw it, as long as we keep Ray and Jason Brown I'm happy. Barnes/Gooden/Ray/JJ isn't a bad LB corps...




  4. #34

    Re: Has Terell Suggs silenced the critics?

    Scott took less a few years ago because he didn't want to be a Cleveland Brown, period. After he arrived for his campus visit he quickly realized that the grass wasn't greener on the other side!

    UNLEASH THE BEASTS!!!!




  5. #35

    Re: Has Terell Suggs silenced the critics?

    Good observation, TRAP...

    I believe I saw Ed Hartwell applying for a job at the local UPS Store in Reisterstown last time I was home...

    UNLEASH THE BEASTS!!!!




  6. #36

    Re: Has Terell Suggs silenced the critics?

    ....And T-Sizzle continues to be a force to be reckoned with.

    Talk about ruthless aggression...I thought D. Anderson was gonna file sexual harassment charges against Suggs, he molested him so much yesterday!

    The explicit celebration dance afterward was just icing on the cake!

    I say again: We MUST re-sign #55...Holla!!

    UNLEASH THE BEASTS!!!!




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    Re: Has Terell Suggs silenced the critics?

    Eh.

    If he wants prime money, then I still say no thank you. I still think he's an average LB when you get him away from all the other talent.

    Speaking of ex-Raven talent, I think AD had a whopping 2 tackles yesterday.
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  8. #38

    Re: Has Terell Suggs silenced the critics?

    Well at least you're not letting the FACTS get in the way of your opinion!




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    Re: Has Terell Suggs silenced the critics?

    Quote Originally Posted by RAVENOUS52 View Post
    Well at least you're not letting the FACTS get in the way of your opinion!
    Cheap shot aside, what facts do YOU speak of?

    I seem to remember an off season of him whining and complaining, appearing on TV in NY gear and generally being a PITA towards he team he "loves". Oh, and really nice to see he has grown up and stopped the chest thumping. That's always a great thing when you have an old school coach.

    It's going to take more to sway me other then a handful of sacks against win-less teams.

    We've been down the FA linebacker road before ....
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  10. #40

    Re: Has Terell Suggs silenced the critics?

    Cheap shot? All I said was the truth-- You are totally ignoring what he's producing on the field (FACTS) and then attempting further to minimize that production by referring to his current dominance as "a handful of sacks against win-less teams".

    Suggs can only play against the teams on our schedule, right? And they are NFL teams, right? Then why the attempt to cheapen what he's accomplished so far this season?

    And personally, I love the chest-thumping our defense does. It pumps up the crowd and the rest of the team. Harbaugh probably loves it too...

    UNLEASH THE BEASTS!!!!




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    Re: Has Terell Suggs silenced the critics?

    I am not ignoring anything.

    Yes, he has 2 sacks and 7 tackles. Good Job, Terrell. But what I was providing was some perspective. He has those stats against two of the worst O lines in the game right now. Someone could make the argument "why doesnt he have more?" I don't happen to agree with that line of thinking, but someone could make the case.

    If he is this productive by week 10, I'm on your bandwagon 100%
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  12. #42

    Re: Has Terell Suggs silenced the critics?

    He will be. Look for double-digit sacks this season from Sizzle. And a couple of INTS/Forced fumbles...

    Edited addition-- He doesn't have more because our offense has been hogging the clock like a Pissburgh female hogs a meatball hoagie...
    Last edited by RAVENOUS52; 09-22-2008 at 02:23 PM.

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    Re: Has Terell Suggs silenced the critics?

    Why are you looking across the entire unit Houston? He got one or both of those sacks (can't remember for sure) against Joe Thomas, dude was pro bowl calibre last year and Suggs was eating him up all day for pressure and sacks.

    Suggs is a top quality defender and this system does not make him, we've adapted the system to ensure that we get the best from him in terms of us not having to make him a square peg in a round hole at either DE or LB, he's a round peg in a round hole as a hybrid defender. We must lock him up long term. The NFL only quantifies sacks in terms of pass rushing and that is just not the full extent of what a pass rusher does. Suggs might not be worth Freeney money, but we aren't going to find someone of his calibre immediately on the open market. We might find a rookie Suggs in the draft, but then we've traded in a three down defender for a one down defender, and that's not a reasonable trade off in my opinion.

    As for Thomas only having two tackles, I presume you actually watched the game to know how well he played? Because we all know that just reading the box score is the be all and end all of analysing how players perform in a game isn't it?




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    Re: Has Terell Suggs silenced the critics?

    Quote Originally Posted by RAVENOUS52 View Post
    Edited addition-- He doesn't have more because our offense has been hogging the clock like a Pissburgh female hogs a meatball hoagie...


    That we do agree on!
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    Re: Has Terell Suggs silenced the critics?

    Quote Originally Posted by UKRavenStockers View Post
    As for Thomas only having two tackles, I presume you actually watched the game to know how well he played? Because we all know that just reading the box score is the be all and end all of analysing how players perform in a game isn't it?
    I did watch it and he played decent. Did he play up to his contract though? IMHO, NO!

    As for Suggs, I'm sorry but I am not sold. He really pissed me off this off season. The Ravens have become a clearinghouse of LB talent -- which is a good thing. But the result of that are mediocre players who over achieve because the defense is so stacked.

    I am NOT saying this is Suggs, I AM saying it remains to be seen. Like I said, by week 10 I will be convinced.
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