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    Re: Boller's Deep Ball



    Quote Originally Posted by StingerNLG View Post
    Please show me where he panicked Sunday. When you complete 60% of your passes and throw 2 touchdowns, you're not panicking. You're doing what most every other QB in the league is doing. And 80% of the time you're winning the game with a 112 QB rating.



    Um. Other than then fumble, what was the other snap?



    So it doesn't matter that Boller's actually thowing the ball? It's a mirage? It's really a guy behind Boller throwing the ball and making it LOOK like Boller's throwing it? When Boller runs for a 1st down, you don't see it but he's actually on a bike?

    PR, you know I like you man. And you KNOW I agree with you almost all the time otherwise. But you are starting to venture into Tex territory. And I don't want to see that because you're a better person than that.

    You can say Boller is never going to be starter again, and I understand your arguement for it. It's an easy arguement to make. But I can tell you if he left here today there are at least three teams right now that would love to have his arm and mobility and think they could break him of his fumbling problem. Oakland, Detroit, Minnesota. That's just if he left today.



    It doesn't make his APPEAR better. It simply makes him better.


    I don't hate Boller or anything. I just do not view him as our future starter. I could be wrong and if so, have a bucket of crow waiting for me.

    As for the other snap, it wasn't a snap that he fumbled, but the ball was snapped back to Boller and Boller was not ready to receive it. That could have been a simple miscommunication between Boller and the center.

    All of this said, Boller deserves a fresh start with another club, because Boller's best opportunity here would be as a backup. Again, I could be wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tex Ritter View Post
    Before all of you join hands and sing KyleBollerYa, did the thought ever occur to you that the converse is also true in that a calm, poised, veteran QB like say, Steve McNair also makes his offensive line look better because he is able to properly react and maneuver (adjust on the fly) to pressure as it invariably comes on most all passing plays?
    What a joke. The OL provides pass protection like never before, and some confused fans want to credit the QB. Watch the pass protection closely on tape next time.

    Funny, in two games Boller has but 3 sacks, one which was a fumble, not a true sack. That extrapolates to 16 to 24 sacks a season, depending on how you want to interpret the fumble. I assume that some who have their noses up in McNair's jockstrap would credit the OL for Boller's performance, but credit McNair for the minimal sacks in the other games. Right?


    Quote Originally Posted by Tex Ritter View Post
    Also, please explain to an idiot like me who has only been watching NFL football religiously since the early 1960's what the OL has to do with Boller tripping over air totally untouched? (I am not talking about being stepped on by Flynn either). Explain that one please?
    I, too have been watching NFL football since the 1960s, and I cannot understand how one fan could get so, so obsessed with such an average QB. And, yes, I have also witnessed McNair tripping, fumbling, and bumbling this year as well.


    Quote Originally Posted by Tex Ritter View Post

    And finally as much as you love Kyle Boller and ooh and ah over his big arm, if it was fourth and goal from the 10 yard line with 3 seconds remaining and the Ravens were down 6 in the superbowl, would you all really feel supreme confidence that Boller would somehow make the game winning play and not just trip over air and fall down? Or would you much rather have Steve McNair in that situation?

    As long as there were a preceding 2 week rest period, from the 10, I'd go along with McNair because he's a vet. Anything beyond that, I'd question that his weak arm could get it there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mista T View Post
    What a joke. The OL provides pass protection like never before, and some confused fans want to credit the QB. Watch the pass protection closely on tape next time.

    Funny, in two games Boller has but 3 sacks, one which was a fumble, not a true sack. That extrapolates to 16 to 24 sacks a season, depending on how you want to interpret the fumble. I assume that some who have their noses up in McNair's jockstrap would credit the OL for Boller's performance, but credit McNair for the minimal sacks in the other games. Right?




    I, too have been watching NFL football since the 1960s, and I cannot understand how one fan could get so, so obsessed with such an average QB. And, yes, I have also witnessed McNair tripping, fumbling, and bumbling this year as well.





    As long as there were a preceding 2 week rest period, from the 10, I'd go along with McNair because he's a vet. Anything beyond that, I'd question that his weak arm could get it there.

    I think you guys are underestimating McNair's arm strength. It is not what it once was, but McNair, on a pass that overshot a wide open DWill, showed me that he has more than a "weak arm."
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    Re: Boller's Deep Ball

    And finally as much as you love Kyle Boller and ooh and ah over his big arm, if it was fourth and goal from the 10 yard line with 3 seconds remaining and the Ravens were down 6 in the superbowl,
    Oh like he did in his only SB trip?

    I too have been watching football since before the 60's and have seen many great QB's come and go. Steve McNoodle is not one of them. McNoodle was nothing but a tease and heartbreaker in Tennessee and he will eventually break our hearts too. I hope I'm wrong but I don't think so. I only hope BB can find another excuse to bench his rag armed ass like he did sunday when we need some offense in the playoffs.

    Of course this is just my opinion, yours may differ.




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    Quote Originally Posted by POPSinPA View Post
    Oh like he did in his only SB trip?

    I too have been watching football since before the 60's and have seen many great QB's come and go. Steve McNoodle is not one of them. McNoodle was nothing but a tease and heartbreaker in Tennessee and he will eventually break our hearts too. I hope I'm wrong but I don't think so. I only hope BB can find another excuse to bench his rag armed ass like he did sunday when we need some offense in the playoffs.

    Of course this is just my opinion, yours may differ.
    Wow, with all of the Kyle Boller haters around, I did'nt know there were many Steve McNair haters.

    Bench McNair? For What? He has led this team to its best ever record, he has had the best QB rating of any Ravens QB since Vinny T.

    We should bench him for Kyle Boller because he lit up the Cleveland Browns Secondary? What a smart move

    Boller seems to be finally making progress and thats great, but the notion of benching the guy who has led us to our great record is absurd.

    Thank God people like you do not run this team.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heap86 View Post
    Wow, with all of the Kyle Boller haters around, I did'nt know there were many Steve McNair haters.

    Bench McNair? For What? He has led this team to its best ever record, he has had the best QB rating of any Ravens QB since Vinny T.

    We should bench him for Kyle Boller because he lit up the Cleveland Browns Secondary? What a smart move

    Boller seems to be finally making progress and thats great, but the notion of benching the guy who has led us to our great record is absurd.

    Thank God people like you do not run this team.

    You didn't know that? If you like McNair, then you "hate Boller." If you support Boller, then you "hate McNair." That's why we are called fans: short for fanatic. (Motivated by extreme and unreasoning enthusiam).
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    Re: Boller's Deep Ball

    All of this said, Boller deserves a fresh start with another club, because Boller's best opportunity here would be as a backup. Again, I could be wrong.
    I agree. There has to be a massive shift for that to change here, and I think both Boller and the club have to know that. I think he goes somewhere else when his contract is up.


    BTW, who's calling for McNair to get benched now?




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    Sorry, I meant this post to be it's own thread. I have corrected that mistake.


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    Re: Boller's Deep Ball

    BTW, who's calling for McNair to get benched now?
    Here ya go!

    I only hope BB can find another excuse to bench his rag armed ass like he did sunday when we need some offense in the playoffs.

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    Anyone calling for McNair to be benched for Boller is totally insane or a troll. Even the defeated Steelers are singing McNair's praises and still ridiculing Boller.
    Agreed.
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    Re: Boller's Deep Ball

    Quote Originally Posted by ClericBlackDave View Post
    Anyone else who's not a Boller hater happy to see that Kyle's deep ball has come along?


    1st, i would give credit to Newsome for finally upgrading our Recievers in the last two years.


    To think that Boller started off throwing to Frank Sanders, Marcus Dropinson, Travesty Taylor . . .


    Now he's throwing to Mason, Clayton, and D Will, probably a top 3 WR combo out there.


    Secondly, starting with the 2nd half of last season, Boller's deep ball has been far more on target. All the deep and intermediate balls he threw 2nd half of last year come to mind.


    Then yesterday, the strikes to Williams (the 1st one and also the 77 yarder) as well as the strike to Clayton. they were all very on target.


    Maybe Billick was right to some extent. Hopefully the coaching staff and McNair have taught Kyle to be more acurate on the deep ball. Also, pass protection has improved.


    Maybe kudos should go to the departed Fassel for some of Kyles improvement.
    It's amazing when I look back at these posts. Correction: it's hilarious. I knew even after the Boller RicochetFest vs. Carolina and the deep bomb to D-Will that he was pretty much the same bumbling 1st round bust quarterback that we grew to hate and love and hate over the past 3 years. How? Because for every big play he makes, he'll make one or two big plays for the other guys. Pick your poison: fumble, interception, a combination of both (hello Denver!), maybe a trip over his own feet for good measure. But no matter how many left feet Boller has, or how many times he'll grin after throwing his 3rd pick of the game, he'll always have that one play that shows he's i-m-p-r-o-v-i-n-g! I think by the time Boller turns 40, he'll have the sufficient experience necessary to be a half decent quarterback, maybe.




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    Quote Originally Posted by FadeToBlack View Post
    It's amazing when I look back at these posts. Correction: it's hilarious. I knew even after the Boller RicochetFest vs. Carolina and the deep bomb to D-Will that he was pretty much the same bumbling 1st round bust quarterback that we grew to hate and love and hate over the past 3 years. How? Because for every big play he makes, he'll make one or two big plays for the other guys. Pick your poison: fumble, interception, a combination of both (hello Denver!), maybe a trip over his own feet for good measure. But no matter how many left feet Boller has, or how many times he'll grin after throwing his 3rd pick of the game, he'll always have that one play that shows he's i-m-p-r-o-v-i-n-g! I think by the time Boller turns 40, he'll have the sufficient experience necessary to be a half decent quarterback, maybe.
    So we should all be jumping for joy at the shit brick McNair laid in the most important game in Ravens history, right? Actually, YOU'RE the one who's hilarious. (If it weren't all so pathetically sad.) Enjoy the games tomorrow. And remember how thankful we all are to Steve McNair for blowing -- along with Billick's shitass play calling and game planning -- our opportunity to host the AFC C. (And don't forget the lack of a single offensive touchdown in 8 consecutive quarters. That's the mark of a REAL QUALITY QB Leader -- I don't want to leave anything out of Steve's immaculate Ravens resume.)

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    And maybe by the time McNair is 50 he'll have a ring.

    Let's see here; We had a shot to keep the second seed when we played Buffalo. McNair put up a 70 QB rating with no TDs and an INT. Thank goodness for our defense because McNair choked in a big game.

    Against the Colts? McNair tosses a couple of INTs (one being on the one yard line). The defense can do nothing but sit back and watch as McNair chokes yet again.

    Good call on the hiding you've been doing for the past week. Do it some more please.
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    This team may not have even made the playoffs without Steve McNair and you two are acting like it's his fault we're not playing on Sunday.

    Before I go any further, you might want to address this pretty important point.




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    Quote Originally Posted by POPSinPA View Post
    Oh like he did in his only SB trip?

    I too have been watching football since before the 60's and have seen many great QB's come and go. Steve McNoodle is not one of them. McNoodle was nothing but a tease and heartbreaker in Tennessee and he will eventually break our hearts too. I hope I'm wrong but I don't think so. I only hope BB can find another excuse to bench his rag armed ass like he did sunday when we need some offense in the playoffs.

    Of course this is just my opinion, yours may differ.
    Looks like POPSinPA did have a point! (Last sentence was right on)




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