McCain keeps swinging and missing

**Galen Sevinne** · 07-29-2008, 02:31 PM

His campaign advisors are really digging this guy in 6 feet deep.

First trying to present McCain as the only choice on foreign policy. At which time, Barrack goes on to completely rock europe with a rousing speech on par with Kennedy and Reagan. Meanwhile McCain is at home standing in front of the cheese display stumbling over his own interpretation of the surge.

So they come back and try to attack Obama on domestic budget strategies by sicking Fiorina on him but then McCain recants in G.W. Bush fashion and states raising taxes is certainly an option.

I don't think this guy wants to win. Obama surges to a 9 point lead. McCain looks old and confused.

**HoustonRaven** · 07-29-2008, 02:45 PM

Originally Posted by Galen Sevinne

His campaign advisors are really digging this guy in 6 feet deep.

First trying to present McCain as the only choice on foreign policy. At which time, Barrack goes on to completely rock europe with a rousing speech on par with Kennedy and Reagan. Meanwhile McCain is at home standing in front of the cheese display stumbling over his own interpretation of the surge.

So they come back and try to attack Obama on domestic budget strategies by sicking Fiorina on him but then McCain recants in G.W. Bush fashion and states raising taxes is certainly an option.

I don't think this guy wants to win. Obama surges to a 9 point lead. McCain looks old and confused.

While McCain is certainly running a horrible campaign, Obama isnt doing much better.

After the European Obama-gasm, he only got a 4 point bump. Given the amount of love he gets from the MSM, this race shouldnt even be close. Also, Obama has now given 4 very different excuses as to why he would rather get a work out in then visit injured troops.

**Galen Sevinne** · 07-29-2008, 03:08 PM

Originally Posted by HoustonRaven

After the European Obama-gasm, he only got a 4 point bump.

That's pretty significant considering all of the press the surge was getting and McCain's supposedly strength in htis area. For Obama to gain 4 points when McCain was in his wheel house is considerable. What does McCain have left?

Originally Posted by HoustonRaven

Given the amount of love he gets from the MSM, this race shouldnt even be close.

keep watching.

Originally Posted by HoustonRaven

Also, Obama has now given 4 very different excuses as to why he would rather get a work out in then visit injured troops.

The only people who seemd to find this a problem were your boys over at fox...outside of that (which was probably in a memo sent over by W) I think that issue is tractionless.

**HoustonRaven** · 07-29-2008, 03:31 PM

Originally Posted by Galen Sevinne

That's pretty significant considering all of the press the surge was getting and McCain's supposedly strength in htis area. For Obama to gain 4 points when McCain was in his wheel house is considerable. What does McCain have left?

4 points is one point off the margin of error. Thats nothing. McCain may or may not have something left -- I really could care less since he isnt my guy anyway. You should be happy, G7. With either McCain or Obama, you get a liberal in the White House.

I do find it interesting that McCain actually went UP in likely voters after the Obama-gasm in Germany.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politic...-28-poll_N.htm

Originally Posted by Galen Sevinne

The only people who seemd to find this a problem were your boys over at fox...outside of that (which was probably in a memo sent over by W) I think that issue is tractionless.

Exactly. Because the MSM want Obama to win they refuse to question him hard. The lone exception to it is Katie Curick (sp?). She actually had the stones to do her job right and ask the same hard-hitting questions the GOP gets everyday. So the highest rated News network is running with it, millions will see and form an opinion on it yet it has no traction?

**BertJonesMyHero** · 07-29-2008, 03:49 PM

He didn't get a 4 point bump. He lost ground. Siting RCP average. He left up 5-6 and is now up 3.2. (3 is the margin. Taht makes things a tie) Americans are not as stoopid as some would like to believe.

He(Obama) was only up in a Daily Gallup tracking poll that went back down the very next day. That poll used Registered Voters. The same Gallop regular poll had McCain up. That is the more reliable poll of "likely Voters'.
Keep drinking the Kool Aide Lefty. Barry should be up 20 freaking points right now.

**Galen Sevinne** · 07-29-2008, 04:12 PM

Originally Posted by BertJonesMyHero

He didn't get a 4 point bump. He lost ground. Siting RCP average. He left up 5-6 and is now up 3.2. (3 is the margin. Taht makes things a tie) Americans are not as stoopid as some would like to believe.

He(Obama) was only up in a Daily Gallup tracking poll that went back down the very next day. That poll used Registered Voters. The same Gallop regular poll had McCain up. That is the more reliable poll of "likely Voters'.
Keep drinking the Kool Aide Lefty. Barry should be up 20 freaking points right now.

your arguments continue to be as lame as Bert's shoulder.

"But with fewer than 100 days now to go before the November 4 election, Obama had opened up a nine-point lead in the latest Gallup poll released Sunday -- 49 percent to 40 for McCain."

**jonboy79** · 07-29-2008, 05:01 PM

Originally Posted by Galen Sevinne

The only people who seemd to find this a problem were your boys over at fox...outside of that (which was probably in a memo sent over by W) I think that issue is tractionless.

So it's not a big deal that all this guy is interested in doing is winning this election. It seems to me this proves he has no desire to help people other then himself.

As soon as he found out he couldn't turn it into his own press circus, we went back to the ritz and worked out instead. Gotta keep yourself pretty if you want to win the young voters....

**HoustonRaven** · 08-01-2008, 09:03 AM

No doubt the Brittney ad is horrible.

But the Ludacris stuff is just as bad -- and right out of the Clinton play book of having someone say the bad stuff so it can be denied / condemned.

And what Fox is doing is nothing different from all the other MSM outlets (if its accurate; I see you got your news from Media Matters again). First, O'Reilly and Hannity are opinion shows and, shocker, they lean right. Do you expect them to be cheerleaders for Obama? I would no sooner expect them to be pro-Obama then would expect Keith over at PMSNBC to be pro-GOP. See, that's the problem with Media Matters and you seen to fall for it -- they cooment on opinion based shows and say its a right-wing bias in news coverage. Even the MRC doesnt go that far. If anyone gets their news from these sources, they should shoot themselves in the face.

Second, I seem to recall Cheney being the victim of very similar gaffes by the MSM -- red x's over his face, the word Satan appearing under his picture, etc.

**BertJonesMyHero** · 08-01-2008, 09:07 AM

O'Reilly has been more then fair to Obama and Clinton before him. What Kos fan doesn't say is that he singled out Ingram and her weekly segment. She is a conservative. That just happened to be her slot.

Yea I know - We can't have that.
The other night I was irked when the whole show was Obama fest '08.

And what is wrong with the JM Ad? It's about time he started calling the guy what he is- An empty suit.

**HoustonRaven** · 08-01-2008, 09:11 AM

Originally Posted by BertJonesMyHero

O'Reilly has been more then fair to Obama and Clinton before him. What Kos fan doesn't say is that he singled out Ingram and her weekly segment. She is a conservative. That just happened to be her slot.

Yea I know - We can't have that.
The other night I was irked when the whole show was Obama fest '08.

And what is wrong with the JM Ad? It's about time he started calling the guy what he is- An empty suit.

I didnt mind the message -- but using that slut Brittney? Come on. He can do better then that.

Both, IMO, are empty suits so I am sitting back and laughing at the whole thing at this point.

**BertJonesMyHero** · 08-01-2008, 09:19 AM

To be fair and balanced, JM had plenty of cluster fucks this week.

Do Republicans Want to Win?
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/dai...115.guest.html

The WSJ asks:
Is John McCain Stupid?
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1217...ays_columnists

But just read the above posts- The left won't admit faults for Lord Byron...errrr Obama.

**Galen Sevinne** · 08-01-2008, 10:33 AM

Originally Posted by BertJonesMyHero

But just read the above posts- The left won't admit faults for Lord Byron...errrr Obama.

That isn't true. Obama is starting to get ripped for trying to take the high road like Kerry did against the fear-based campaigning of the right. It didn't work then and it is not working now...at least the last three days or so.

If Rove was on the left he would start commenting on that mole on the right side of McCain's face, how his hands shake when he holds the mic and how his mind is so aged he can't even read his talking points without looking down at the cue cards.