NFL Fan Conduct Policy

[Jggjaron]

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/8169916

I was just wondering if anyone had any thoughts about this.

[purplepoe]

Watching that crap in SD and Oakland is nauseating.

You can't fix ignorance and stupidity no matter what policies you try to implement. It's basically a reflection on society. And a sad one at that.

PP

[highwater]

Bad fan behavior is disgraceful, but trying to implement a policy to stop it is a joke, especially when the players themselves are constantly getting into trouble.

How is banning beer sales going to solve this problem? The people most likely to cause trouble will just get even more hammered while tailgating, so cutting off alchohol sales during the game will do nothing except punish a lot of people who don't deserve to be punished.

This sounds like grandstanding to me -- Goodell is apparently trying to create a particular image for himself, such as "I'm the moral commish." No, you really aren't.

[plesiosaur]

The people most likely to cause trouble will just get even more hammered while tailgating, so cutting off alchohol sales during the game will do nothing except punish a lot of people who don't deserve to be punished.

The fans attending the games are punished by the high beer prices. Did you notice that the youtube fights seem to be taking place during the first half of the games? People are getting wasted in the lots to save $$$ inside the stadium. Maybe they ought to lower the beer prices.

Ultimately, it certainly does highlight the fact that society in generalis simply violent. Can't sit down and watch a footbal game together. Sheesh.

[Galen Sevinne]

I am curious as to how many beers on average each poster typically buys at a game.

At $7 a beer for domestic, my average is ..............drum roll please.......1.

[Rochardrik]

I am curious as to how many beers on average each poster typically buys at a game.

At $7 a beer for domestic, my average is ..............drum roll please.......1.

0... zilch .....nada..... nunca...zip....bupkis....nyet

[Drkraven]

I am curious as to how many beers on average each poster typically buys at a game.

At $7 a beer for domestic, my average is ..............drum roll please.......1.

None since 1998. I will buy a diet coke, but I usually get the free soda tickets for being designated driver.
Now I have taken the brandy filled candies into the stadium Got my whole section buzzed! Everyone was too happy to fight!

[Dunk]

Regarding the comparison to UK soccer (footy), I was lucky enough to go to an Premier League game in December while therefor Christmas. Here's what they had on sale:

Food
Meat pies
Greasy french fries (Chips)

Drinks
Hot tea
Beef broth

I kid you not.

I loved the game, but a couple of brewskies would have made it most excellent.

And it was the tamest crowd I have seen at ANY sporting event ever, including my kids' rec league soccer and lacrosse. Nary a hooligan in sight.

DUNK

[UKRavenStockers]

Which Premiership ground were you at?

Also the no beer thing is in place throughout football in the UK, beer is banned in the stands and it has almost totally wiped out violence in the stands at football games.

Rugby is in stark comparison where like the NFL there is zero segregation between home and away fans, beer is allowed in the stands and there is always a great balance between intensity and cordiality in the atmosphere.

[HoustonRaven]

Im all for this but am concerned that it will lead to some teams outright banning tailgating.

To hold the teams accountable is a good thing -- I know of a dude over on the left coast who has been arrested 2 times for fighting at games but the Raiders keep allowing him to purchase season tickets every year. THAT is the true crime!

If you get arrested and found guilty for assaulting someone, say good-bye to your season tix and the team can sell them at their PSL price to someone new -- speeds up the waiting list and weeds out the a$$holes who ruin it for everyone else.

[Real Fan Dan]

If you get arrested and found guilty for assaulting someone, say good-bye to your season tix and the team can sell them at their PSL price to someone new -- speeds up the waiting list and weeds out the a$$holes who ruin it for everyone else.

Remember when we were allowed to bring huge (even 10 gallon) jugs of beer into Memorial Stadium, so long as it wasn't in glass contaiers? I don't remember any blatant acts of violence back then. :D

Seriously tho, i agree with Houston's idea above, but maybe with a couple modifications. The police generally arrest anybody involved in a fight (ie; a jerk can get up and bang you in the face for no reason. Your neighbors separate you. You stand up and cuss at him and the cops bust you both cause you're "involved". I've seen the police mishandle a number of incidents in the stadium over the years. So I would modify the rule as follows:

One conviction for assault during a game - loss of season tickets
Two convictions for assault during a game - loss of PSL

For non PSL teams - Two convictions and you are banned from buying season tickets.

Of course this would mean that the district court would release the conviction information to the team. I'm not sure if that is allowed or the process might cost the team more than it's worth. Even so, it would probably cost less than banning beer sales.

[Dade]

I dont think I've ever brought more than 3 beers at a game. Just too expensive. I'm always pretty much wasted before I get into the stadium. People are gonna act like idiots with or without beer.