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    Quote Originally Posted by OriAl View Post
    The only real problem Boller has had is lack of protection by his offensive line. Flacco will have the same problem, unless the line improves.
    Ohhhh, I see. So when Boller was rolling out of the pocket against Denver 3 years ago and tripped over his own feet and proceeded to fumble and cost us the game, it was the offensive line's fault? The same offensive line that only allowed McNair to be sacked 17 times in 2006, 1 more than the NFL record that year set by the Colts? Yeah, you're right, Boller's good it's just the line that sucks. Looks like you've been drinking the Billick Kool-Aid for too long, my friend.




  2. #17

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raveninwoodlawn View Post

    Boller is done here after this year unless he is content to be a back up.

    He might be.

    As well, I would wager that the FO believes that it is more likely that Smith is unable to be a backup, then able to be a starter. I think the most likely scenario is that he is a hopefully long term backup here.

    I mean to say that likely we'll head into next year with Flacco and Smith and a Vet... I think it is VERY HIGHLY unlikely that Smith enters the '09 camp as the favorite for the starters job. I would be less surprised to see us enter camp with Flacco and Boller, with Smith cut.




  3. #18

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    Boller was supposed ot have a break out year in 2004, 2005, 2006 and 2007. I guess everyone has moved on from the "It takes a QB 3 years to develop," rationale to the "It took Rich Ganon 11 years to break in to Pro Bowl form" logic when PROVING Boller's climb to elite status. Is that right?




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    Quote Originally Posted by Mista T View Post
    Wouldn't it great if Boller had a break-out season under Cam's new offense, and we were faced with the same type QB "problem" facing the Browns?
    wasn't Cam the OC in SD when Brees did it?...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mista T View Post
    Wouldn't it great if SMITH had a break-out season under Cam's new offense, and we were faced with the same type QB "problem" facing the Browns?
    Fixed......




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    Quote Originally Posted by 4G63 View Post
    Fixed......
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    Quote Originally Posted by the_scarecrow3 View Post
    Ohhhh, I see. So when Boller was rolling out of the pocket against Denver 3 years ago and tripped over his own feet and proceeded to fumble and cost us the game, it was the offensive line's fault? The same offensive line that only allowed McNair to be sacked 17 times in 2006, 1 more than the NFL record that year set by the Colts? Yeah, you're right, Boller's good it's just the line that sucks. Looks like you've been drinking the Billick Kool-Aid for too long, my friend.
    Yeah, the same offensive line that allowed Boller to be saked three times in 55 attempts in 2006, the year Boller put up a QB rating of 104. All of Boller's problems can't be put on the (very) offensive line, but some of them can.

    This line has been so horrible at pass blocking for so long people just come to accept it.
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  8. #23

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    Quote Originally Posted by darb72 View Post
    Yeah, the same offensive line that allowed Boller to be saked three times in 55 attempts in 2006, the year Boller put up a QB rating of 104. All of Boller's problems can't be put on the (very) offensive line, but some of them can.

    This line has been so horrible at pass blocking for so long people just come to accept it.
    The QB position has been that PATHETIC, for the last DECADE that the few games that Boller really excelled are enough for some devout fans to cling to 5 years in the making... move on bro, it's over...




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    Quote Originally Posted by jonboy79 View Post
    The QB position has been that PATHETIC, for the last DECADE that the few games that Boller really excelled are enough for some devout fans to cling to 5 years in the making... move on bro, it's over...
    Yeah, its over..........Boller's days are numbered. He just hasn't lived up to his starter status.




  10. #25

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonboy79 View Post
    He might be.

    As well, I would wager that the FO believes that it is more likely that Smith is unable to be a backup, then able to be a starter. I think the most likely scenario is that he is a hopefully long term backup here.

    I mean to say that likely we'll head into next year with Flacco and Smith and a Vet... I think it is VERY HIGHLY unlikely that Smith enters the '09 camp as the favorite for the starters job. I would be less surprised to see us enter camp with Flacco and Boller, with Smith cut.
    I agree with this 100%. Kyle signing the deal he did last year shows me he likes playing in Baltimore, and he is willing to accept that he is a backup in the NFL. I see no way, baring a catastrophe, Smith enters camp as the starter in 2009.




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    Quote Originally Posted by MrPoeJangles View Post
    I agree with this 100%. Kyle signing the deal he did last year shows me he likes playing in Baltimore, and he is willing to accept that he is a backup in the NFL. I see no way, baring a catastrophe, Smith enters camp as the starter in 2009.
    Like Balttimore or not, Kyle is under contract. As our best player at the position, Boller will start on opening day. If he falters, Flacco would be thrown in. I don't see a role for Smith ..... if there is a need for another special teamer (esp. kicker), or OL, or OT, Smith would be cut. He is superfluos - too short to ever start in the NFL.

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  12. #27

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    I think Boller plans onleavign for a starters job, thus Smith shoud stick around and see if he canlock down that job though we could get a retread for that role next year and i wouldn't be upset.




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    No one knows for sure how all of this plays out until the preseason is over. I say we will keep all (3) QB's this year, just for insurance. At some point, Joe Flacco will be the starter. They are not paying him to be a backup or a protege for long. Depending on how the season plays out will determine his starting date. If he has an unbelievable pre-season, I do see him starting. The coach will decide who gives us the best chance to win.




  14. #29

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonboy79 View Post
    The QB position has been that PATHETIC, for the last DECADE that the few games that Boller really excelled are enough for some devout fans to cling to 5 years in the making... move on bro, it's over...
    First off, I'm not your "bro".

    Secondly, I was talking to someone who was claiming the offensive line had no bearing on Boller playing like crap. The line played surprisingly well that year (2006) and McNair put up the highest QB rating a Ravens QB has had under Billick. Boller played much better that year than he has before or since.

    2007 rolls around, the line sucks again and both QBs play terribly. Gee, maybe I'm talking about the line's problems in pass blocking being a problem for all of our QBs. I don't claim they're the cause of all Boller's problems, but they certainly contributed.

    Now before you tell me to, "move on", again, perhaps you would like to actually consider the entire argument instead of focusing in on Boller all the time. Maybe you should go ahead and get over it?
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  15. #30

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    Boller has never been good. Not in college and not as a pro. He's just another fluke QB to come to the NFL through Jeff Tedford's School of Bondo Quarterbacking.

    Just add him to the list of letdowns from the same program.

    Here's some evidence http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9n4DlmibDQ

    Make sure to read the comments to see what the general football fant thinks of Boller.

    Troy Smith was a playmaker in college and he even won an award. His only knock is his height.

    Flacco, in college, was pretty much always the best player on the field. His knock is that he didn't play against top competition. The common argument is that some very good QBs didn't play against top competition in college. A lot of people, including myself, say he reminds them of Derek Anderson. Hopefully he can show that at the pro level.




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