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    Re: It's Official now with Rex Ryan



    So instead of just having him back as the DC, they toss the Assistant HC title his way?

    And this was Harbaugh's idea?

    Ummm, right.



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  2. Re: It's Official now with Rex Ryan

    I had my reservations about this, but not now. Not after I read Aaron's article. Rex and John have said all the right things. And unilke the previous coach, I believe them.

    And trying it for 1 year can't hurt. You can always part ways down the road.




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    Re: It's Official now with Rex Ryan

    Quote Originally Posted by purplepoe View Post
    So instead of just having him back as the DC, they toss the Assistant HC title his way?

    And this was Harbaugh's idea?

    Ummm, right.



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    ummm, right...it was all Bisciotti's idea. Word is that he held a gun to the entire organization and said it is my way or the highway. He forced them to hire Harbaugh and then forced Harbaugh to extend Ryan and word is that he is going to force Rex to let Ray run the undisciplined defense exactly how he wants to. Bischiotti does this because he has no idea how to run an organization nor does he have any experience hiring people. Also the word is that if Ray gets to run the defense as he sees fit then Bisciotti gets a free rack of ribs every week.

    Puhleeeeze








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    Re: It's Official now with Rex Ryan

    Quote Originally Posted by Galen Sevinne View Post
    ummm, right...it was all Bisciotti's idea. Word is that he held a gun to the entire organization and said it is my way or the highway. He forced them to hire Harbaugh and then forced Harbaugh to extend Ryan and word is that he is going to force Rex to let Ray run the undisciplined defense exactly how he wants to. Bischiotti does this because he has no idea how to run an organization nor does he have any experience hiring people. Also the word is that if Ray gets to run the defense as he sees fit then Bisciotti gets a free rack of ribs every week.

    Puhleeeeze

    It is funny how so many people think SB is this unorganized idiot, who is a control freak. Who cares why he fired Billick, it needed to be done. Who cares if he said he was safe and then let him go, it is his descision, his money. Who cares if he ask the players how they feel, it is the players who have to play and if it is not working for them then make a change. I think we all need to give SB more credit, the guy know how to runa business seeming how he only makes like a billion a year (which i'm pretty sure is more than what this whole board will make in a lifetime combined)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rayvens52 View Post
    It is funny how so many people think SB is this unorganized idiot, who is a control freak. Who cares why he fired Billick, it needed to be done. Who cares if he said he was safe and then let him go, it is his descision, his money. Who cares if he ask the players how they feel, it is the players who have to play and if it is not working for them then make a change. I think we all need to give SB more credit, the guy know how to runa business seeming how he only makes like a billion a year (which i'm pretty sure is more than what this whole board will make in a lifetime combined)
    Who said SB is an unorganized idiot?

    I care that he said one thing and then backtracked.

    I care if he asks the players their feelings on whether or not to fire a coach.

    Who the hell cares that he can run a staffing firm and make big money (a billion a year huh?).

    Ooooo, he makes more money than us. I guess that means he can do no wrong as an NFL owner.

    I love the "he makes millions so he knows how to run an NFL team" argument.

    Take a look 40 miles down the road and tell me how that great business man runs his team.

    And before you go all nuts, the comparison is just in regards that both have made a ton of money in the business world.

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    Re: It's Official now with Rex Ryan

    Quote Originally Posted by Galen Sevinne View Post
    ummm, right...it was all Bisciotti's idea. Word is that he held a gun to the entire organization and said it is my way or the highway. He forced them to hire Harbaugh and then forced Harbaugh to extend Ryan and word is that he is going to force Rex to let Ray run the undisciplined defense exactly how he wants to. Bischiotti does this because he has no idea how to run an organization nor does he have any experience hiring people. Also the word is that if Ray gets to run the defense as he sees fit then Bisciotti gets a free rack of ribs every week.

    Puhleeeeze
    Once again, just because he runs a staffing firm doesn't mean he's good at running an NFL team.

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    Re: It's Official now with Rex Ryan

    Quote Originally Posted by highwater View Post
    His dad was a windbag that never backed up his big words as a HC. I hope Rex is better than his old man.
    Buddy Ryan was one tough SOB! He took No crap from anybody, and his '85 Bears Defense reflected that attitude - it's all about attitude, as far as I'm concerned. Hell, even Ditka knew not to mess with this guy during their SB run; the players loved him, and they would do anything for him!
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    Re: It's Official now with Rex Ryan

    Quote Originally Posted by purplepoe View Post
    Once again, just because he runs a staffing firm doesn't mean he's good at running an NFL team.

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    true but what's the evidence for the contrary?








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    Re: It's Official now with Rex Ryan

    Quote Originally Posted by Galen Sevinne View Post
    true but what's the evidence for the contrary?
    It's called an opinion.

    I know it's unpopular to ever question the mighty Ravens front office but I really don't care.

    I question many of the things over the past few years.

    If people are happy with what's gone on, that's fine.

    Basically it's time to see them fill out the staff and on to the draft.

    The issues that I and some others have with the FO have been discussed over and over on this board.

    I'm sure we'll have plenty to debate in the near future.

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    Re: It's Official now with Rex Ryan

    Quote Originally Posted by Rayvens52
    Who cares if he said he was safe and then let him go, it is his descision, his money.
    Actually, there are people who care about that. If you look someone in the eye and tell him he's coming back, and then one day just wake up and decide to go back on your word, yes, there are people who care about that.

    That doesn't mean Bisciotti is an "unorganized idiot," but to say that no one cares how this went down is wrong.

    But this is history now, I'm ready to move on. I didn't think Rex was coming back, but I like what I've heard from him and from Harbaugh this week. Hopefully they'll be a good team.




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    Re: It's Official now with Rex Ryan

    Quote Originally Posted by highwater View Post
    Actually, there are people who care about that. If you look someone in the eye and tell him he's coming back, and then one day just wake up and decide to go back on your word, yes, there are people who care about that.

    That doesn't mean Bisciotti is an "unorganized idiot," but to say that no one cares how this went down is wrong.

    But this is history now, I'm ready to move on. I didn't think Rex was coming back, but I like what I've heard from him and from Harbaugh this week. Hopefully they'll be a good team.
    I did not say no one cares I said who cares. It is his team, it his decision. What was he supposed to do, say with several weeks left we are not sure if we want to keep him or not. It was handled properly. And for PP you are right, it is your opinion I guess I just don't understand what this FO has done to make you not trust there judgment over these last several years.
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    Re: It's Official now with Rex Ryan

    Quote Originally Posted by purplepoe View Post
    It's called an opinion.

    I know it's unpopular to ever question the mighty Ravens front office but I really don't care.

    I question many of the things over the past few years.

    If people are happy with what's gone on, that's fine.

    Basically it's time to see them fill out the staff and on to the draft.

    The issues that I and some others have with the FO have been discussed over and over on this board.

    I'm sure we'll have plenty to debate in the near future.

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    cool... I was just looking for evidence that Bisciotti is calling the shots as many are so quick to assume. It's an easy stance to criticize the guys at the top especially if you don't need any evidence.

    The Ravens front office has been respected throughout the NFl for the past 10 years. I don't think one coaching change nullifies all of that especially when it is not hard to make a case for the change.

    To say that is was done in an Angelosian style is pretty silly to me but like you said it is just an opinion. If we are having tis same discussion in two years, I will praise your opinion.








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    Re: It's Official now with Rex Ryan

    Quote Originally Posted by Galen Sevinne View Post
    cool... I was just looking for evidence that Bisciotti is calling the shots as many are so quick to assume. It's an easy stance to criticize the guys at the top especially if you don't need any evidence.

    The Ravens front office has been respected throughout the NFl for the past 10 years. I don't think one coaching change nullifies all of that especially when it is not hard to make a case for the change.

    To say that is was done in an Angelosian style is pretty silly to me but like you said it is just an opinion. If we are having tis same discussion in two years, I will praise your opinion.
    My concerns run much deeper than the handling of the Billick firing.

    You seem to be willing to take whatever the FO says at face value.

    I'm much more skeptical.

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