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    Matt Ryan is on now (12/28) on ESPN



    He just threw for a touchdown in the second quarter to a WR in stride in the back of the endzone. Michigan State has been giving him pressure the whole night so far and he's played well for what I've seen......

    I still think we'll end up with Chris Long in the draft, but if we pick up Ryan I won't be too disappointed....




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    couldn't get away from that sack




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    Now he's been intercepted What? Is this the interception bowl?
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    Re: Matt Ryan is on now (12/28) on ESPN

    If people think we're getting Ryan or any of the top tier QB's this draft, I have a tunnel in Baltimore to sell you.

    Billick will NEVER allow his ego to start any other QB next year other than McBoller.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    If people think we're getting Ryan or any of the top tier QB's this draft, I have a tunnel in Baltimore to sell you.

    Billick will NEVER allow his ego to start any other QB next year other than McBoller.
    Brian Billick is the teams GM? What, besides waste 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th round picks does Ozzie Newsome do?




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    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    If people think we're getting Ryan or any of the top tier QB's this draft, I have a tunnel in Baltimore to sell you.

    Billick will NEVER allow his ego to start any other QB next year other than McBoller.
    1) Who is drafted and who starts have nothing to do with one another.

    2) Who says anyone here who wants us to draft one of the big three wants that QB to start next year?

    3) Why do you think Billick has a major say in, much less controls, who we draft?

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    Re: Matt Ryan is on now (12/28) on ESPN

    Quote Originally Posted by psuasskicker View Post
    1) Who is drafted and who starts have nothing to do with one another.
    Really? Ask Troy Smith about that.

    Quote Originally Posted by psuasskicker View Post
    2) Who says anyone here who wants us to draft one of the big three wants that QB to start next year?
    With one year left on both McNair's and Boller contract, IF someone is drafted, they see time albeit limited. Billick is loyal to a fault and will not even look at a QB in the draft unless instructed to do so. Even then, no telling if that new QB even sees the field if McBoller are still in the mix.

    Quote Originally Posted by psuasskicker View Post
    3) Why do you think Billick has a major say in, much less controls, who we draft?
    Because he has in EVERY draft since he has been with the team ... uhh, hello ... Kyle Boller was his hand-picked QB.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    With one year left on both McNair's and Boller contract, IF someone is drafted, they see time albeit limited. Billick is loyal to a fault and will not even look at a QB in the draft unless instructed to do so. Even then, no telling if that new QB even sees the field if McBoller are still in the mix.
    When did Billick get to start handing in the draft card? Are you now saying Ozzie is not the decision maker on the team?

    Because he has in EVERY draft since he has been with the team ... uhh, hello ... Kyle Boller was his hand-picked QB.
    Uhhh, hello. That was AFTER we lost Byron Leftwich to the Jaguars. We need to put this fabrication to rest at some point as well. The Ravens WANTED Leftwich. They couldn't get him as per the story about the telephone issue with Minnesota. They still NEEDED a QB. Boller was the next one on the list. Well, there was Rex Grossman after that. But everyone can see now how all three of these QB's (Leftwich, Boller, Grossman) panned out. Pretty much interchangable at this point.

    Let's bury this hand-picked QB crap once and for all, shall we?




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    Re: Matt Ryan is on now (12/28) on ESPN

    Quote Originally Posted by StingerNLG View Post
    When did Billick get to start handing in the draft card? Are you now saying Ozzie is not the decision maker on the team?



    Uhhh, hello. That was AFTER we lost Byron Leftwich to the Jaguars. We need to put this fabrication to rest at some point as well. The Ravens WANTED Leftwich. They couldn't get him as per the story about the telephone issue with Minnesota. They still NEEDED a QB. Boller was the next one on the list. Well, there was Rex Grossman after that. But everyone can see now how all three of these QB's (Leftwich, Boller, Grossman) panned out. Pretty much interchangable at this point.

    Let's bury this hand-picked QB crap once and for all, shall we?
    I was countering someone elses point that Billick has NO say, which is false.

    Three folks from the Ravens make the trip to NYC -- Bisciotti, Ozzie and Billick. While final decision rests with Ozzie, Billick DOES have a huge say in who we draft as does any head coach.

    Yes, the Ravens wanted Leftwich. That doesnt mean Billick was ONLY looking at Leftwich. Billick has long ties to the Pac-10 and had his eyes on Boller from his sophomore year at Cal. In that respect, Boller was Billick's guy in that neither Ozzie or Modell had their eyes on him.
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    Re: Matt Ryan is on now (12/28) on ESPN

    I have a strange feeling about Matt Ryan. Yes he is set up already to be a pro QB. But something just doesn't sit right about him.Maybe it all sounds to easy that he will be a great NFL QB. Or maybe I just don't want to condemn him to this offense.
    Put the smile back on your face.This is a 60 minute ball game.




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    Re: Matt Ryan is on now (12/28) on ESPN

    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    I was countering someone elses point that Billick has NO say, which is false.

    Three folks from the Ravens make the trip to NYC -- Bisciotti, Ozzie and Billick. While final decision rests with Ozzie, Billick DOES have a huge say in who we draft as does any head coach.

    Yes, the Ravens wanted Leftwich. That doesnt mean Billick was ONLY looking at Leftwich. Billick has long ties to the Pac-10 and had his eyes on Boller from his sophomore year at Cal. In that respect, Boller was Billick's guy in that neither Ozzie or Modell had their eyes on him.
    I'm pretty sure that Ozzie, Billick and DeCosta are sat back in a war room at Owings Mill during the draft and they have a bunch of assistants sat at our table in Radio City Music Hall, same setup as most teams go with I believe.




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    Re: Matt Ryan is on now (12/28) on ESPN

    Quote Originally Posted by UKRavenStockers View Post
    I'm pretty sure that Ozzie, Billick and DeCosta are sat back in a war room at Owings Mill during the draft and they have a bunch of assistants sat at our table in Radio City Music Hall, same setup as most teams go with I believe.
    Billick was definitely there last year for sure. My buddy had his picture taken with him on day two.
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    Yes, Billick is in the war room with them. But the final say is Ozzie Newsome. Eric Decosta and Ozzie are the two main guys. And when he was here, so was Phil Savage. Billick gives his input, but he is hardly even a decision maker in the process.

    And of course they were looking at Boller. They were looking at all the QB's in that class, since they needed one. That doesn't mean Billick was lobbying for Boller and Newsome said he was getting Leftwich instead. They were all on the same page as to getting Leftwich. Billick has said this, and Ozzie has said this.

    And if Ozzie didn't want to draft Boller, he wouldn't have.




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    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    I was countering someone elses point that Billick has NO say, which is false.

    Three folks from the Ravens make the trip to NYC -- Bisciotti, Ozzie and Billick. While final decision rests with Ozzie, Billick DOES have a huge say in who we draft as does any head coach.

    Yes, the Ravens wanted Leftwich. That doesnt mean Billick was ONLY looking at Leftwich. Billick has long ties to the Pac-10 and had his eyes on Boller from his sophomore year at Cal. In that respect, Boller was Billick's guy in that neither Ozzie or Modell had their eyes on him.
    Those 3 absolutely do not make the trip to NYC.

    I dunno where you got that information.

    PP




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    Quote Originally Posted by StingerNLG View Post
    Yes, Billick is in the war room with them. But the final say is Ozzie Newsome. Eric Decosta and Ozzie are the two main guys. And when he was here, so was Phil Savage. Billick gives his input, but he is hardly even a decision maker in the process.

    And of course they were looking at Boller. They were looking at all the QB's in that class, since they needed one. That doesn't mean Billick was lobbying for Boller and Newsome said he was getting Leftwich instead. They were all on the same page as to getting Leftwich. Billick has said this, and Ozzie has said this.

    And if Ozzie didn't want to draft Boller, he wouldn't have.
    100% correct.

    This whole notion about Boller being Billick's guy etc.... is laughable.

    It's even more laughable since we traded up to get him. Ozzie Newsome did that and if he wasn't 100% positive that Boller was the right pick, there is no way in hell he pulls the trigger.

    As far as Ryan goes.

    He's the top QB in the draft IMO.

    PP
    Last edited by purplepoe; 12-30-2007 at 01:32 PM.




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