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Thread: It is NOT the system!
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12-26-2007, 05:09 PM #25Regular 1st Stringer
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Re: It is NOT the system!
This is a crazy thread.
It is exactly BECAUSE it's been 10 years that one can say for certainty that the system is at least partially, if not fully, to blame.
If his system is so intricate it needs such a unique set of players to pull off, it's a bad system.
If his system is not working because he has not had the right kind of offensive lineman, than that's his fault as coach, who has plenty of input on the types of players the team needs. If he wasn't getting any input on what kind of players he wanted, he would have quit.
If his system isn't working because of regular turnover of players, well guess what, that's a bad system too because in the NFL world of free agency that's a fact of life.
BB caught lightening in a bottle with the talent he had on the Vikings - that seems pretty clear now. We can also see the equation based on what the Patriots have done this year -- Moss is a pretty unique WR, if you have at least 1 WR who can make plays and keep defenses honest with Moss, a QB who can make plays, and a good OL, you set an all time scoring record. The Pats have shown you don't even really need a running game, the Vikes had one then.
I have to agree with Preston on this one - to say it's not the system at least in laarge part after 10 years is really being naive.
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12-26-2007, 05:26 PM #26
Re: It is NOT the system!
Awalt's post is the best one I've seen on this board in at least 2 months.
The man knows his football
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12-26-2007, 07:08 PM #27
Re: It is NOT the system!
I dunno. Seems like a typical denial of the fact that the offense *has* had some decent years, and has seen a lot of changes in scheme as well. You can't tell me the offense we were running this year is the same as it was last year, or Jamal's 2000+ year, or Grbac's year. Those were different offensive schemes.
Anyway I have no problem trashing the offensive scheme with a new OC. I just think it's incorrect as a matter of fact to say the offense has been horrible the whole time Billick has been here. It is just plain wrong. It's been bad *most* of the time, which isn't good enough, but there are glaring absences on the offensive side of the ball that account for that, at least in part.
I am of the opinion that anyone stating an extreme opinion on this board, something like "X is because Y always Z," is normally wrong. I wonder if I should change the "normally" to "always." Hm.
Anyway, :2c:.Festivus
His definitions and arguments were so clear in his own mind that he was unable to understand how any reasonable person could honestly differ with him.
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12-26-2007, 09:21 PM #28
Re: It is NOT the system!
Now take off your purple glasses. How did we fair with Jamal's big year? One and done? Dude, seriously, you think we have ever had an O under Billick....WTF...We have never been able to overcome a 14 point deficit due to our O. This is common knowledge...I was going to argue with you but damn.....this is common knowledge with every fact/ stat in the world backing me up!!! Question where was the offense ranked when Jamal had his big year....Just wanted to hear you say it....:insane:
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12-26-2007, 09:55 PM #29
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12-26-2007, 10:00 PM #30
Re: It is NOT the system!
Sorry AZ, but your retort is wrong! He used a different way to control the ball other than short pass' when he first came to the Ravens...They have drafted more atheletic O-linemen in the past two years with Chester, Brown and Grubbs....He was starting to implement his true system these past two years and it was going to really get off the this year. Then the injuries to KEY players on the O-line, tight end, QB's and wideout positions with D. Williams..What is so hard about understanding this He used Jamal Lewis as a ball control back to set up the pass with thos HUGE O-linemen.....You really don't get it do you:insane:
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