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  1. #877

    Re: The great WR RESET of 2018

    Quote Originally Posted by BigPlayReceiver View Post
    Lazard has been on my mind for weeks now, and it's not b/c I like him
    for real. He screams late round WR the ravens pick up and then spin the PR machine as an athletic freak who can play WR AND TE!

    He's #Delete11 levels of "Im Done" if the team tries to pass them off as an investment in the future
    Burn it down





  2. Re: The great WR RESET of 2018

    Quote Originally Posted by BigPlayReceiver View Post
    I'm not necessarily a 100% big-WR guy, but the obvious attribute that's missing from the WR roster is size; by which, I mean >=6'3. So as a mini-watchlist, here are the Sr Bowl WRs that qualify:


    Allen Lazard (6'5) ...Above average speed score (4.62 @ 222 lbs); Late Day 2?

    Jaleel Scott (6'5) ...34" vert, 33 1/2 arms, struggled in 1-on-1s; Mid Day 3?

    Marcell Ateman (6'4) ...Slow, but uses size/radius well; Late Day 2?

    Javon Wims (6'4) ...Much more of an athlete than a WR; Late Day 3/UDFA?

    DJ Chark (6'4) ...Fast, but struggled on 1-on-1 reps; Mid Day 2?

    J'Mon Moore (6'3) ...4th best in Mobile on 1-on-1 reps; Early Day 3?

    Cedrick Wilson (6'3) ...Productive, does everything well except for deep-ball efficiency; Early Day 3?

    Darren Carringtion (6'3) ...Kind of a diq, so probably not on the Board; Late Day 3/UDFA?


    IMO...
    Best WR: Wilson
    Best Athlete: Chark
    Best RZ: Lazard
    Best "He might turn out to be pretty damn good": Moore
    Really like Ateman and Wilson; really don't like Chark and Lazard.

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    Re: The great WR RESET of 2018

    Quote Originally Posted by BigPlayReceiver View Post
    I'm not necessarily a 100% big-WR guy, but the obvious attribute that's missing from the WR roster is size; by which, I mean >=6'3. So as a mini-watchlist, here are the Sr Bowl WRs that qualify:


    Allen Lazard (6'5) ...Above average speed score (4.62 @ 222 lbs); Late Day 2?

    Jaleel Scott (6'5) ...34" vert, 33 1/2 arms, struggled in 1-on-1s; Mid Day 3?

    Marcell Ateman (6'4) ...Slow, but uses size/radius well; Late Day 2?

    Javon Wims (6'4) ...Much more of an athlete than a WR; Late Day 3/UDFA?

    DJ Chark (6'4) ...Fast, but struggled on 1-on-1 reps; Mid Day 2?

    J'Mon Moore (6'3) ...4th best in Mobile on 1-on-1 reps; Early Day 3?

    Cedrick Wilson (6'3) ...Productive, does everything well except for deep-ball efficiency; Early Day 3?

    Darren Carringtion (6'3) ...Kind of a diq, so probably not on the Board; Late Day 3/UDFA?


    IMO...
    Best WR: Wilson
    Best Athlete: Chark
    Best RZ: Lazard
    Best "He might turn out to be pretty damn good": Moore
    Cedrick Wilson all day out of that group. He's a football player and I'm not convinced most of the others aren't just athletes.





  4. #880

    Re: The great WR RESET of 2018

    Quote Originally Posted by WNCRavensFan View Post
    Cedrick Wilson all day out of that group. He's a football player and I'm not convinced most of the others aren't just athletes.
    Strong take.
    You like him a bit earlier? Much earlier?
    "The Ravens are not taking Jimmy Smith at 26!" -- Me, the day before the 2011 Draft

    "On their way to the podium, the Ravens FO is going to collectively step over my dead body and select...Breshad Perriman." -- Me, the day before the 2015 Draft

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    Re: The great WR RESET of 2018

    Quote Originally Posted by BigPlayReceiver View Post
    Strong take.
    You like him a bit earlier? Much earlier?
    Tough to say. He's not a guy that I say "you take this guy if you like him no matter how early". We both like a number of the shorter WRs this year and though having a tall guy is nice, it's not necessary. Michael Crabtree plays large and you would think TE is also addressed.

    I would consider him in round 3, and if I pass on him in round 4 that means the board is in real good shape.





  6. #882

    Re: The great WR RESET of 2018

    Quote Originally Posted by WNCRavensFan View Post
    Tough to say. He's not a guy that I say "you take this guy if you like him no matter how early". We both like a number of the shorter WRs this year and though having a tall guy is nice, it's not necessary. Michael Crabtree plays large and you would think TE is also addressed.

    I would consider him in round 3, and if I pass on him in round 4 that means the board is in real good shape.
    Solid.
    "The Ravens are not taking Jimmy Smith at 26!" -- Me, the day before the 2011 Draft

    "On their way to the podium, the Ravens FO is going to collectively step over my dead body and select...Breshad Perriman." -- Me, the day before the 2015 Draft

    Missed it by That Much: The story of 'Get Smart' and the modern day Baltimore Ravens

    @BigPlayReceiver





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    Re: The great WR RESET of 2018

    Quote Originally Posted by WNCRavensFan View Post
    I would consider him (Cedrick Wilson) in round 3, and if I pass on him in round 4 that means the board is in real good shape.
    I like CW, but I feel round #3 is a wee bit early. This is where that Wagner comp pick drop (3rd to 6th) hurts us. I'd much rather wait for a guy like Wilson in the 5th after we already have drafted a "prime" WR earlier... Bc





  8. #884

    Re: The great WR RESET of 2018

    WRs that I don't feel comfortable with...


    Kirk (if earlier than 3rd rd; questionable fit, limited agility and elusiveness)

    Chark (if earlier than 4th rd; tough eval based on limiting systems and opportunities)

    Tate (if earlier than 5th rd; horrible athletics)

    Cobbs (if earlier than 5th rd; inconsistent as hell. Tough to find anything he does consistently well)

    Lazard (if at WR; put 8-10 lbs on him and make him a move-TE and I'm in)

    Lasley (if drafted at all; drop rate >12% rule)
    "The Ravens are not taking Jimmy Smith at 26!" -- Me, the day before the 2011 Draft

    "On their way to the podium, the Ravens FO is going to collectively step over my dead body and select...Breshad Perriman." -- Me, the day before the 2015 Draft

    Missed it by That Much: The story of 'Get Smart' and the modern day Baltimore Ravens

    @BigPlayReceiver





  9. #885

    Re: The great WR RESET of 2018

    Quote Originally Posted by BigPlayReceiver View Post
    WRs that I don't feel comfortable with...


    Kirk (if earlier than 3rd rd; questionable fit, limited agility and elusiveness)

    Chark (if earlier than 4th rd; tough eval based on limiting systems and opportunities)

    Tate (if earlier than 5th rd; horrible athletics)

    Cobbs (if earlier than 5th rd; inconsistent as hell. Tough to find anything he does consistently well)

    Lazard (if at WR; put 8-10 lbs on him and make him a move-TE and I'm in)

    Lasley (if drafted at all; drop rate >12% rule)
    What are your thoughts on Keke Coutee? Is he a younger version of John Brown? Worth a flyer as a speed merchant and KR specialist (averaged 31.5 yds per kickoff return)? Or noooo bueno.


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  10. #886

    Re: The great WR RESET of 2018

    Quote Originally Posted by QuothDaRaven View Post
    What are your thoughts on Keke Coutee? Is he a younger version of John Brown? Worth a flyer as a speed merchant and KR specialist (averaged 31.5 yds per kickoff return)? Or noooo bueno.
    Unfortunately, I've only watched highlights.
    "The Ravens are not taking Jimmy Smith at 26!" -- Me, the day before the 2011 Draft

    "On their way to the podium, the Ravens FO is going to collectively step over my dead body and select...Breshad Perriman." -- Me, the day before the 2015 Draft

    Missed it by That Much: The story of 'Get Smart' and the modern day Baltimore Ravens

    @BigPlayReceiver





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    Re: The great WR RESET of 2018

    Looks like #11 won't be part of the 2018 Ravens. Everything that I'm reading says he will be gone, most likely released unless we can find a really dumb trade partner.

    Attachment 4641





  12. #888

    Re: The great WR RESET of 2018

    Quote Originally Posted by ravensfan55 View Post
    Looks like #11 won't be part of the 2018 Ravens. Everything that I'm reading says he will be gone, most likely released unless we can find a really dumb trade partner.

    Attachment 4641
    Source?





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