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Thread: The Fall of the Ravens Empire
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01-13-2018, 08:49 PM #97
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I agree with this completely. We are here to be entertained.
I am so tired of hearing people who thing they know how to be a General Manger of any organization or an HR rep of any organization or an Executive Officer of a billion dollar organization. More often than not, they don't know shit.
I hope the person who invented fantasy football is dying a slow, torturous death while watching his family suffer the same. It has ruined everything.
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01-13-2018, 09:16 PM #98Legendary RSR Poster
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Re: The Fall of the Ravens Empire
It's simple, it's the Curse of the Boldin. The last six years flashed before my eyes the minute I heard he was released because of a 1 mil difference (or so was the reason the FO gave). You can go back on this board and read my comments back then (a lot of other posters felt the same, while others mocked us, the teams had just been SB Champs, in Oz we trust, etc.)
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01-13-2018, 09:26 PM #99Legendary RSR Poster
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Re: The Fall of the Ravens Empire
It is possible that the team has finally taken on Harbaugh's personality. An average uncontroversial team, not terrible, but not good enough. The Old Ravens, who everyone in the league hated (and feared), went away when the last holdouts of that team (Ray Lewis, Ed Reed, Boldin) left.
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01-13-2018, 09:33 PM #100Hall Of Fame Poster
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01-13-2018, 09:44 PM #101Hall Of Fame Poster
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Re: The Fall of the Ravens Empire
This.
The Ray Rice Debacle did more lasting damage to this franchise than anything. Period. Combined with Harbaughs boyscout style and intolerance for strong voices in his locker room in favor or corporate Kumbayah and yes men. It burned Bisciotti badly too. It was a media witch hunt that was close to #metoo in intensity and Bisciotti, who had a strong personal relationship with many of his players including Rice, got BURNED badly by a guy he extended himself for. Rice's weasely betrayal of Bisciotti via his pony-tailed greaseball attorney Diamondstein was like a Julius Ceasar moment. I don't think people remember that the media was this close to calling on Bisciotti to be forced to sell the team much like the owner of the Warriors Donald Sterling. I think the Ravens, after that incident, became totally risk averse and it screwed up their ability to evaluate football talent. Correction, I don't think, I know. That was the year we started drafting like crap. The fact that a scandal could reach and touch the owner in such a personal way (his tweets being exposed and a guy he vouched for stabbing him in the back...) is to me the main thing that derailed this franchise. If not for that incident I think we draft with clearer vision for talent. I think Harbaugh is probably not a great influence either with his inability to deal with men with strong personalities. We need someone a little more like Billick to be honest but of course better with Xs and Os than both.
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01-13-2018, 11:38 PM #102Veteran Poster
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Re: The Fall of the Ravens Empire
Tony's article really nailed it. After 6 years of post season and a super bowl win, the organizational arrogance became its undoing. Harbaugh believed he was something that he wasn't. His ego took over. He believed that his voice was more important than it was. The media hyped his response to the alleged mutiny. In my humble opinion, I think he took more credit than he deserved during the team's playoffs and super bowl runs. I think he believed that he was the impetus that led his team to successful seasons. Harbaugh has made sure that his double standards and dog houses will go unchallenged by his players and staff. This team hasn't had an edge since the super bowl.
Our front office believed their own hype. They became complacent and valued numbers of draft picks rather than choosing obvious talent . In Ozzie we trust. We do things the Raven's way. They sold us on trusting the process. Who we pick will somehow become a hall of famer because that's what we do. Over the last 5 years the process has not produced results and rather than change the process, they continue to trust in a process that ain't working.
The dysfunction at all levels in this organization is alarming. Their belief that the fandom will accept the non answers, obvious problems ranging from drafts, salary cap, player development, poor game planning typifies the incredible arrogance of harbaugh, newsome and biscotti.
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01-13-2018, 11:53 PM #103
Re: The Fall of the Ravens Empire
fuck this team and harbaugh. pats throwing the ball in 4th quarter up 3 TDs.
mismatch rbs vs lbs.
ravens would be run run pass punt.
fuck this whole tam
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01-14-2018, 12:31 AM #104
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TL, i was thinking more about this today. IF the ravens are not planning a major change or two this offseason i dont think there is any upside to holding the STOR.
its all downside risk. only bad things can come out of it. the fans will be more mad then they are now. they will made the die hards more miserable with the whole continuity talk.
if they plan no changes they should not have the STOR and not make it any worse on the fans. i cant see any good coming out of it
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01-14-2018, 12:33 AM #105
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Hyperbole aside, I think we can all agree that the team cares about winning. However, they are being just a tad bit condescending right now.................................................just a tad.
"Please take with you this final sword, The Excellector. I am praying that your journey will be guided by the light", Leon Shore
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01-14-2018, 12:59 AM #106Legendary Asswipe
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01-14-2018, 09:40 AM #107Hall Of Fame Poster
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Yes, but not enough. It seems that personal relationships trump winning.
I will give them credit for one thing though - they figured out how to stop our coaches from being plucked away by other teams. By hiring and retaining terrible coaches they stopped that cycle.
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01-14-2018, 10:26 AM #108
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The Ravens have no one but themselves to blame for the Rice situation. They botched the hell out of the PR. They tried to get ahead of it and rushed to paint Ray as a saint when they should have just let the investigation run its course. It was their rush to repair their image that cost them. In this day of social media where facts change quickly the best thing to do is sit down and shut up until you have every fact.
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