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12-05-2007, 10:32 AM #13
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There is too much talking going on that is totally unneccessary. Taunting, insults, bullying, etc. does not enhance the game. Talk to your teammates about strategy, the next play, what to expect, etc. Leave the officials alone and go play ball. In other words, SHUT UP!!!
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12-05-2007, 10:45 AM #14
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I agree and yet disagree at the same time. The officials need to check themselves too.
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12-05-2007, 11:37 AM #15Regular 1st Stringer
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Re: Samari Rolle's Accusations
While you are correct that calling anyone "boy" is offensive it is a particular insult to black men because of the history. Yes, this official was a black man, and a former NFL player, in my view this only makes it worse as he should have clearly undrstood the nuances of what he was saying.
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12-05-2007, 11:49 AM #16Regular 1st Stringer
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I have been saying all season that the Ravens do entirely to much yapping. This is a prime example of the outcome of it, they get themselves so amped up that they are borderline out of control all the time then when something happens they go over the edge. This team, particularily the defense, lacks composure. I think other teams take delight in baiting them knowing they are always ready to go off. We are the second most penalized team in the NFL and while many of them are procedure type penalties many of them are just the kind of unnecessary idiocy we saw Monday night. This isn't the first time one of our players has had two major (15 yarders) penalties on the same damn play. IMO that is uncalled for and embarrasing.
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12-05-2007, 11:58 AM #17Pro Bowl Poster
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Re: Samari Rolle's Accusations
Originally Posted by AZRAVEN
I am not condoning Bart's overreaction, but an NFL official should absolutely not be talking trash to a player on any team. Who do they think they are, major league umpires?
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12-05-2007, 12:08 PM #18
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"The refs shouldn't talk to the players period"
I think the whole rolle thing hints of whining since we lost, if we won would even hear about out??
BUT i do agree that refs shouldnt be talking with players, if they are suppose to a neutral party and are getting into bantering back and forth, its hard to say the ref isnt going to be biased in some calls. if this "boy" comment came up once id be like, ok one time heat of the mement, but per rolle it continued.
Refs should ignore players, if a player gets into them, you get a warning not a comment, the player does it again, warn him of ejection...still not a coment. With the whole nba refs thing it makes you wonder sometimes.Season ticket holder since 1996 Section 148 Tailgate Lot H
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12-05-2007, 01:35 PM #19Regular 1st Stringer
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Re: Samari Rolle's Accusations
I'm sorry, I didn't mean my response to indicate I felt it was an excuse for the official's conduct. It wasn't, there is no ecuse for any official to be jawing at and baiting players on any team. I will be interested to see if the no balls league will actually take any action against him. My bet is nothing happens.
My comment was just a reflection of my feeling that the Ravens bring out the worst in everyone they share the field with because of their big mouths and arrogance - arrogance that has been pretty much unjustified all season until Monday night.
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Re: Samari Rolle's Accusations
Good post and I couldn't agree more......that being said, if he was called "boy" then you tell the coach and approach the head referee during a TV timeout and tell him that a derogatory term has been used towards one of your players by the specific referee. This makes it "official" and you go about your business of playing football! Rational human beings don't(shouldn't) act this way in public and they should act like men and handle it after the game in an official capacity.....
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12-05-2007, 02:03 PM #21
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12-05-2007, 03:45 PM #22
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Thank god the ref was black otherwise Rev. Jesse and Sharpton would be all over his a$$.
Plus I heard today that Rolle told him he never played football, etc but they said this ref did play in the NFL for a few different teams.M&T Bank Stadium - Section 513
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12-05-2007, 05:00 PM #23
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12-05-2007, 05:21 PM #24
Re: Samari Rolle's Accusations
Use of the word "boy" when addressing another man is demeaning, *particularly* to a black man, but it's just demeaning and obnoxious to anybody. I would even say it's a fighting word.
It's a no-brainer. Any official who uses language like that when dealing with players should be fired. Mindful that, in the real world, stuff like that doesn't happen just because I say it's a no-brainer, disciplinary action will probably be behind closed doors.
On a related matter, obviously the players are talking too much, and some (ahem, Bart) handled it poorly in-game. Hopefully they will get their stuff together in time for Indy.Festivus
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