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The Politics Surrounding Collin Kaepernick
I though ClericBlackDave had a great post in the Kaepernick Football Thread and wanted to use it as the basis for creating this thread.
Originally Posted by ClericBlackDaveDisclaimer: The content posted is of my own opinion.
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08-02-2017, 12:26 PM #2
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Re: The Politics Surrounding Collin Kaepernick
As I've said before, as a vet, I don't particularly care that Kaepernick chose to sit or kneel for the anthem. Doesn't really bother me.
Related, but not that relevant, of an anecdote...
I was talking to my wife last night and she was telling me about how two of her colleagues are naming their kids names that can have "gender neutral" nicknames like "Chris" or "Nikki"...etc. It kind of got me thinking and I just cannot understand how we, as a society, have gotten to the point where we have to worry about our kid's names possibly being offensive because they're gender-specific.
Similar to Kaepernick's chosen method of protest, I don't get why their kid's names have to be considered for what is/isnt offensive. Anyone that is offended by Kaepernick's method of protest is directly choosing to be offended. He's not asking you or anyone else to do it. He's not even asking you or anyone else to agree with him. It's only offensive if you let it be offensive. I don't choose to sit or kneel for the anthem. I served. I support good LEO officers and departments. His protest has ZERO impact on me.
I'm not offended by it and no one else should be offended by it either.
I do admit that I think his choice to wear "pigs" socks at practice and do interviews wearing a Che Guervara tee shirt were childish, immature, and shows his mentality. But again, not offended by it.
The media wants you to be offended and divisive, one way or the other. That's what they want. The media, in many ways, is akin to a predator or a militaristic entity conducting psychological warfare. If we, as a nation, stopped getting offended by every, little, fucking minute thing...most of this crap would just go away.Last edited by wickedsolo; 08-02-2017 at 03:58 PM.
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08-02-2017, 12:57 PM #4
Re: The Politics Surrounding Collin Kaepernick
I'm with Wicked almost word for word. I personally don't get it.
The most ironic thing I've found is that people are saying he's shitting on America yet he's invoking one of the biggest pieces of American pride (from what I've observed) which is the constitution.
If Kap was making a statement that was outlandish and ridiculous and doing it the way he was I'd understand it. But he has some legitimate claims in regards to systematic racism and treatment by law enforcement.
He's clearly read a lot of Angela Davis, which is scholarly writing on how the prison became an extension of slavery. I encourage you guys to read some of her work. It's very in line with Kap.
If this was coming from some stupid opinion like the Westboro Baptist Church have when the invoke their right to expression (whcih is pure hate) then I would get it. But this is legitimate criticsms and the man is entitled to his opinion just like you are to either like or not like it.
Personally, I use sports to get away from real life. I dont give a fuck who's on my team. I just want to win on Sunday."Cause if you ain’t pissed off for greatness, that just means you’re okay with being mediocre, and ain’t no man in here okay with just basic.”
- Ray Lewis
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Twitter: @ColeJacksonFB
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Re: The Politics Surrounding Collin Kaepernick
I think Bisciotti is very concerned about the politics surrounding this player though. It's pretty evident.
Disclaimer: The content posted is of my own opinion.
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Re: The Politics Surrounding Collin Kaepernick
Great perspective in this post!
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08-02-2017, 05:33 PM #7
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Burn it down
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Re: The Politics Surrounding Collin Kaepernick
Here are a couple observations of mine:
1. Yes, America allows for protest, but it does not necessarily protect the consequences of it. If fans don't like their team signing Kaepernick, they in turn can boycott the team. The NFL should allow its players to protest because of the anti-trust violations it makes.
2. I find it hilarious when Baltimoreans complain about Kaepernick. This is a town that yells "O" during the National Anthem. Talk about another form of disrespect.
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08-02-2017, 11:20 PM #10
Re: The Politics Surrounding Collin Kaepernick
Think of it as us protesting Kap saying incredibly stupid things.
"A moron, a rapist, and a Pittsburgh Steeler walk into a bar. He sits down and says, “Hi I’m Ben may I have a drink please?”
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08-03-2017, 02:40 AM #11
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I just find it a tad comical or maybe ironic, that we live in a country where people praise being an American, all the freedom we have, and the moment someone uses the first amendment to speak on a subject someone disagrees with, said person is met with this kind of blowback and hatred. Our entire country was founded upon standing up for something you think is right, doesn't mean you are right, but you have the freedom to do that.
The bashing on him is getting out of control, I could careless about his protest, I just want football. The more this keeps going on takes away the conversation from football and turns to politics and we all know how ugly that can get.
The fact that I am a veteran just, like others on here (Wicked), and could care less about what he is doing, should give a message to most civilians to chill the fuck out.
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08-03-2017, 08:19 AM #12
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From someone living outside of the US - this is EXACTLY what I see.
We got talking about it in the Trump thread - Americans have a very unique (and I'm not saying this in a critical way) idea of what freedom is. It's much different than other countries. I think this is a good showing of it.
Personally I use sports to get away from real life and I don't like to mix the two. People seem hell bent on including poilitics in every aspect of their life though."Cause if you ain’t pissed off for greatness, that just means you’re okay with being mediocre, and ain’t no man in here okay with just basic.”
- Ray Lewis
https://www.baltimoreravens.com/author/cole-jackson
Twitter: @ColeJacksonFB
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