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    Re: BR.Com: Why Michael Campanaro Believes He's Ready For Breakout Year



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    Re: BR.Com: Why Michael Campanaro Believes He's Ready For Breakout Year

    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    Now you're just being willfully ignorant.

    Go back and watch the catches, runs, and YAC he produced when he had the opportunity.

    If Camp can stay healthy, he is every bit as dynamic of a player as Julian Edelman.


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    Re: BR.Com: Why Michael Campanaro Believes He's Ready For Breakout Year

    Quote Originally Posted by Mista T View Post
    I love your optimism and enthusiasm about Perriman, but based on what we've seen in the two years he's been here, I don't see how Perriman, with his hands, could achieve 1100 yards.
    He gained 7.56 yards per target last season. At that rate, he'll only need 146 targets to get to 1100. :)





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    Re: BR.Com: Why Michael Campanaro Believes He's Ready For Breakout Year

    Quote Originally Posted by MontibelloValhalla View Post
    A healthy Perriman, Camp, and Wallace is deadly. Pair that with Woodhead and the tight ends or 3rd down, we should be ok.

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    Re: BR.Com: Why Michael Campanaro Believes He's Ready For Breakout Year

    Quote Originally Posted by GOTA View Post
    How is Perriman not a question mark?
    Why would he be? 23yo player who had 500 yds in limited snaps last season. (As basically a rookie, and without ever having had an NFL training camp.) It's very, very reasonable to pencil him in with 700+ yds as a full-time #2. That's a decent (not great) figure for a #2 receiver.

    Technically there are 32 "#1 receivers" in the league. We tend to only think of about 8 to 12 guys as being "legitimate #1s" (maybe more like 4 or 5), but there really are 32 different top receivers, one on each team. If you go down the list of receiving yards from last season, let's say the first 32 are the "#1 receivers". That's not precisely true, Travis Kelce and Greg Olsen are in this list; also Drew Brees has 2 of the top ten and also #35. But as a very rough approximation, let's say the first 32 are the "#1s". Only the top 25 got a thousand yards; the #32 total was Marvin Jones' 930 yds (with 4 TDs).

    Let's say the next 16 receiving totals represent the "above average #2s". The 48th-highest receiving yardage total from this past season was Jordan Mattews' 804 yds (with 3 TDs). That's just 5 yds more than Steve Smith got last season (he placed at #50). The 48th-highest number of targets this past season was 100 (including TEs and RBs). At Perriman's yards-per-target stat from last season, that would give him 756 yards. That would have placed him at #53 on the yardage list: just behind Dez Bryant (who played 13 games) and Brandon Marshall, just ahead of Ted Ginn and DeVante Parker.

    It's not really a "question mark" whether Perriman can produce at about the level of a #2 receiver: he's already shown he can do that. An average or slightly below-avg #2, but a real NFL #2. The question marks around Perriman are his health and his ceiling. He played all 16 games last season; that's a decent place to start for his health. We'll start to get an idea about his ceiling over the next couple seasons. If he improves at all with coaching and experience and a training camp, if he bumps that catch pctg up a little and sharpens his route-running some, he can certainly be a 900-yd guy, maybe even a thousand guy. I'm not ready to put him in the 1200 or 1300 yard club yet; that's rare air. But that's the "ceiling" question. The 900-yd potential is obvious.





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    Re: BR.Com: Why Michael Campanaro Believes He's Ready For Breakout Year

    Quote Originally Posted by MontibelloValhalla View Post
    A healthy Perriman, Camp, and Wallace is deadly. Pair that with Woodhead and the tight ends or 3rd down, we should be ok.

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  7. Re: BR.Com: Why Michael Campanaro Believes He's Ready For Breakout Year

    *sigh, here we go again*

    As much as I L-O-V-E Camp's tape, both college and (what little there is of it) pro, I can't get my hopes up about Camp finally staying healthy THIS time.

    I just can't.





    But I guess I am hoping just the same.





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    Re: BR.Com: Why Michael Campanaro Believes He's Ready For Breakout Year

    Quote Originally Posted by MontibelloValhalla View Post
    A healthy Perriman, Camp, and Wallace is deadly. Pair that with Woodhead and the tight ends or 3rd down, we should be ok.

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    Re: BR.Com: Why Michael Campanaro Believes He's Ready For Breakout Year

    Camp is on a 1 year $2 million deal. No one is ever going to pay him anything close to that again if he can't perform in 2017. This really is his last chance so he better be a true believer. Camp needs to do whatever it takes to prove that he belongs on a NFL roster because midnight is just around the corner and there are no more glass slippers.





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    Re: BR.Com: Why Michael Campanaro Believes He's Ready For Breakout Year

    Quote Originally Posted by JimZipCode View Post
    Why would he be? 23yo player who had 500 yds in limited snaps last season. (As basically a rookie, and without ever having had an NFL training camp.) It's very, very reasonable to pencil him in with 700+ yds as a full-time #2. That's a decent (not great) figure for a #2 receiver.

    Technically there are 32 "#1 receivers" in the league. We tend to only think of about 8 to 12 guys as being "legitimate #1s" (maybe more like 4 or 5), but there really are 32 different top receivers, one on each team. If you go down the list of receiving yards from last season, let's say the first 32 are the "#1 receivers". That's not precisely true, Travis Kelce and Greg Olsen are in this list; also Drew Brees has 2 of the top ten and also #35. But as a very rough approximation, let's say the first 32 are the "#1s". Only the top 25 got a thousand yards; the #32 total was Marvin Jones' 930 yds (with 4 TDs).

    Let's say the next 16 receiving totals represent the "above average #2s". The 48th-highest receiving yardage total from this past season was Jordan Mattews' 804 yds (with 3 TDs). That's just 5 yds more than Steve Smith got last season (he placed at #50). The 48th-highest number of targets this past season was 100 (including TEs and RBs). At Perriman's yards-per-target stat from last season, that would give him 756 yards. That would have placed him at #53 on the yardage list: just behind Dez Bryant (who played 13 games) and Brandon Marshall, just ahead of Ted Ginn and DeVante Parker.

    It's not really a "question mark" whether Perriman can produce at about the level of a #2 receiver: he's already shown he can do that. An average or slightly below-avg #2, but a real NFL #2. The question marks around Perriman are his health and his ceiling. He played all 16 games last season; that's a decent place to start for his health. We'll start to get an idea about his ceiling over the next couple seasons. If he improves at all with coaching and experience and a training camp, if he bumps that catch pctg up a little and sharpens his route-running some, he can certainly be a 900-yd guy, maybe even a thousand guy. I'm not ready to put him in the 1200 or 1300 yard club yet; that's rare air. But that's the "ceiling" question. The 900-yd potential is obvious.
    When someone is a question mark you aren't sure what your going to get. Perriman showed he could be a #2 the same way Marlon Brown did in his first season. Brown wasn't considered a question mark by the Ravens either but he should have been. Hopefully Perriman steps it up this year but he sure didn't look impressive last year. Michael Campanaro when healthy was more dynamic and showed more flash. I completely agree that the potential for Perriman is there but it was last year too. I'm certainly not counting on him to reach that potential. I'm hoping he will but you can't count on it based on his history
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    Re: BR.Com: Why Michael Campanaro Believes He's Ready For Breakout Year

    Quote Originally Posted by BcRaven View Post
    Don't want to be a Debbie Downer here, but I don't see that group putting fear in the hearts of DCs across the league... Bc
    Certainly not right away, but if they have a few successful games, then defenses will have to start paying attention.


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    Re: BR.Com: Why Michael Campanaro Believes He's Ready For Breakout Year

    There is reason for optimism based on the high light plays including the leaping TD grab in TB, the whirlygig TD in Pitt, and I think an end around for like 45 yards once.

    But I refuse to let myself be wooed by the Ravens WRs, because I've only ever been let down.

    It's like a domestic abuse syndrome. "Oh he/she won't do it again, they promised"

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