All Harbs team vs All Billicks team

**leachisabeast** · 06-01-2017, 03:28 AM

Thought it would be a cool idea to name your best team from the Billick era and have them face off against the best team from the Harbs team in this very long and boring offseason.

Billick team:
SKILL
QB- McNair
HB- Jamal
FB- Gash
WR1- D Mason
WR2- Ismail
TE1- Heap
TE2- Sharpe

OL
LT- Offense
LG- J Brown
C- J Mitchell
RG- Mulitalo
RT- Zeus

DL
NT- Goose
DT- Sam Adams
DE- Ngata
Rush- Sizzle

LBs
MLB- Ray
WLB- Sharper
WLB- Boulware

Secondary
CB1- McCallister
CB2- Starks
Nickel CB- Rolle
SS- Reed
FS- Woodson

K- Stover
KR/PR- Jermaine Lewis

OC- Billick
DC- Marvin Lewis

Harbaugh team:

SKILL
QB- Joe
HB- Rice
FB- Leach
WR1- Steve Smith sr
WR2- Mason
Slot WR- Boldin
TE1- Heap
TE2- Pitta

OL
LT- Stanley
LG- KO
C- Birk
RG- Yanda
RT- Wagner

DL
NT- Williams
DE- Redding
DT- Ngata
Rush- Sizzle

LBs
MLB- Ray
WLB- Mosley
SLB- JJ

Secondary
CB1- Jimmy
CB2- Webb
Nickel corner- Corey Grahame
SS- Weddle
FS- Reed

K- Tucker
KR/PR- Jacoby

OC- Gary Kubiak
DC- Rex Ryan

If these two teams were going to go head to head all in their best seasons under either coach. I'm going to give Harbaugh's team the edge due to that offense which I think could be elite. That OL looks really good. Billicks defense has the edge for sure, and that's some serious beef up front, but the Harbs defense is pretty damn good aswell, and I just can't see a 2006 McNair getting anything done against that D. Where as I think with Joe and Kubiak calling the plays, we'd put up enough points to win the game, something like 17-14.

**CopRaven** · 06-01-2017, 03:55 AM

Man, our post-2011 defense would have been much better if Suggs, Jimmy and Webb could all stay healthy at the same time. That defense you listed just looks so much better than what we've actually fielded.

I'm also going to vote for the Harbaugh team. The LB corps doesn't have quite the playmaking ability that Billick's have, but otherwise the defenses are actually pretty close. Harbaugh's offense can throw the ball quite a lot better than Billick's and that is the difference.

I think I would put Monroe in there instead of Stanley (for now, a year from now it should be Stanley) and Torrey makes his way into the WR corps, as the three others are very similar players.

**filthflarnfilth** · 06-01-2017, 05:02 AM

Billick would beat the shit out of lil Johnny Boy phony ass

**leachisabeast** · 06-01-2017, 05:56 AM

Originally Posted by filthflarnfilth

Billick would beat the shit out of lil Johnny Boy phony ass

And Kubiak?

**leachisabeast** · 06-01-2017, 06:01 AM

Originally Posted by MontibelloValhalla

Sir it's Billick and its not close. Prime Raven defense with competent offense would have an 80 percent winning percentage against PLAYOFF caliber teams. Boulware and Suggs with Ed and Ray would rattle Flacco into the fetal position.

Law Firm of McCauley, Dickey and McMillan.

See I disagree. I just can't see that offense doing much against the Harbs defense. Sizzle in 2011 form, Ray and Ed in 08 form, Haloti in 2010 form. Then you've got a Kubiak offense loaded with a class OL and good weapons for Joe.

**leachisabeast** · 06-01-2017, 06:14 AM

Imagine 3 wide with Mason Boldin and SSr, with Heap at TE and Rice at HB with a Kubiak offense behind that OL. Lots of play action, motion, miss direction etc. That defense is great but that offense would put up points, and I doubt McNair would be able to do much to that defense.

**GOTA** · 06-01-2017, 06:50 AM

Originally Posted by MontibelloValhalla

Sir it's Billick and its not close. Prime Raven defense with competent offense would have an 80 percent winning percentage against PLAYOFF caliber teams. Boulware and Suggs with Ed and Ray would rattle Flacco into the fetal position.

Law Firm of McCauley, Dickey and McMillan.

I agree with you. The only big advantage the Harbaugh side has is at QB. I'm assuming the best year each player had under their respective coach. Therefore it would be the 2006 McNair and nothing he did with the Titans and Ray and Ed Reed in their absolute Hall of Fame primes both under Billick. That's a lot of talent. Guys like Sam Adams and Chris McAlister are lightyears ahead of their Harbaugh counterparts. Too bad Billick didn't have that group for longer.

**leachisabeast** · 06-01-2017, 07:16 AM

Originally Posted by GOTA

I agree with you. The only big advantage the Harbaugh side has is at QB. I'm assuming the best year each player had under their respective coach. Therefore it would be the 2006 McNair and nothing he did with the Titans and Ray and Ed Reed in their absolute Hall of Fame primes both under Billick. That's a lot of talent. Guys like Sam Adams and Chris McAlister are lightyears ahead of their Harbaugh counterparts. Too bad Billick didn't have that group for longer.

Are you seriously suggesting that Sam Adams is light years ahead of Haloti Ngata in 2010? I really don't see that.

**sailorsam** · 06-01-2017, 07:40 AM

I think the 2000 D shuts down any Harbaugh O, even wi Kubiak. not a knock on Flacco, that D would shut the 85 Niners down.

I get misty thinking about Billick's team with a decent offensive line & quarterback.

**Goode05** · 06-01-2017, 08:27 AM

Billicks and it's not close. Also how are Lewis Reed and Suggs on both teams?

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**arnie_uk** · 06-01-2017, 08:43 AM

Surely Thomas has to be on that defense for billick somewhere

**HbgPARavenfan** · 06-01-2017, 08:50 AM

Originally Posted by leachisabeast

Thought it would be a cool idea to name your best team from the Billick era and have them face off against the best team from the Harbs team in this very long and boring offseason.

Billick team:
SKILL
QB- McNair
HB- Jamal
FB- Gash
WR1- D Mason
WR2- Ismail
TE1- Heap
TE2- Sharpe

OL
LT- Offense
LG- J Brown
C- J Mitchell
RG- Mulitalo
RT- Zeus

DL
NT- Goose
DT- Sam Adams
DE- Ngata
Rush- Sizzle

LBs
MLB- Ray
WLB- Sharper
WLB- Boulware

Secondary
CB1- McCallister
CB2- Starks
Nickel CB- Rolle
SS- Reed
FS- Woodson

K- Stover
KR/PR- Jermaine Lewis

OC- Billick
DC- Marvin Lewis

Harbaugh team:

SKILL
QB- Joe
HB- Rice
FB- Leach
WR1- Steve Smith sr
WR2- Mason
Slot WR- Boldin
TE1- Heap
TE2- Pitta

OL
LT- Stanley
LG- KO
C- Birk
RG- Yanda
RT- Wagner

DL
NT- Williams
DE- Redding
DT- Ngata
Rush- Sizzle

LBs
MLB- Ray
WLB- Mosley
SLB- JJ

Secondary
CB1- Jimmy
CB2- Webb
Nickel corner- Corey Grahame
SS- Weddle
FS- Reed

K- Tucker
KR/PR- Jacoby

OC- Gary Kubiak
DC- Rex Ryan

If these two teams were going to go head to head all in their best seasons under either coach. I'm going to give Harbaugh's team the edge due to that offense which I think could be elite. That OL looks really good. Billicks defense has the edge for sure, and that's some serious beef up front, but the Harbs defense is pretty damn good aswell, and I just can't see a 2006 McNair getting anything done against that D. Where as I think with Joe and Kubiak calling the plays, we'd put up enough points to win the game, something like 17-14.

Billicks defense was the GOAT And they could run the ball. Harbs defense would get run over and gassed in the second half. They held the Giants to basically no offense past the 50 yard line in the superbowl