ESPN says Mangold visiting Bmore

[HoustonRaven]

I agree. I'm not worried about his health because whatever if it is that it was injury where he got rolled up on

really the amount of money and guarantees is going to be the question. if he is willing to take a modest deal that is really limited risk and you gotta take a shot. And I'm honest I don't mean peanuts IE the veteran minimum I just mean three to five million a year Max limited guarantees maybe incentives

Its not the initial injury that concerns us. Its him re-inuring it when he rehabs, something he's done once (rumored twice) now.

[bensmotorcyclehelmt]

Some similarities in age between Mangold and Birk.
Mangold has been in the league for 10 years and had ankle issues at the end of last season.
Birk played for Minnesota for 10 years, and had sports hernia and hip surgery in the middle-end of that time. He then played for the Ravens from '09-'12.

[Jsmoove]

We really can't afford ot pay him much. We have like 7M in cap space and need 5M for rookies.

I think - Where Brian at?

good question, I have no idea where we are cap wise right now, and I know the giants threw something out there to Nick but i think that's why he hasn't signed there yet because the money isn't where he wants it to be. He's been injured the last 2-3 seasons not many teams are going to pay him what he thinks he might fetch.

[wickedsolo]

If we can get Mangold, even at 80%, for another 1-2 years...that's ideal.

[Jsmoove]

Its not the initial injury that concerns us. Its him re-inuring it when he rehabs, something he's done once (rumored twice) now.

yup

[Jsmoove]

If we can get Mangold, even at 80%, for another 1-2 years...that's ideal.

80% Mangold greater than 100% Zuttah

[wickedsolo]

good question, I have no idea where we are cap wise right now, and I know the giants threw something out there to Nick but i think that's why he hasn't signed there yet because the money isn't where he wants it to be. He's been injured the last 2-3 seasons not many teams are going to pay him what he thinks he might fetch.

Cut Watson. Cut Arrington.

There are ways to make cap room without going deep-6.

[WrongBaldy]

My friend is an avid jets fan said both times mangold got hurt last year and the year before was due to getting rolled up on. Can't help that. He instantly up grades the oline. Don't let him leave the castle Ozzie

THIS. my friend who is a jets fan keeps telling me he is surprised mangold has not signed yet.
he thinks nick is asking for too much money also.
btw the "injury history" talk he says is just uninformed/lazy fans and he is injury prone.
basically mangold thinks he is a top 5 center and wants to be paid like that when in reality he is 5-15 center.

[Jsmoove]

Cut Watson. Cut Arrington.

There are ways to make cap room without going deep-6.

those would be my cuts as well, but isn't arrington still in concuss protocol?

[GreatWhiteNorthRaven]

Cut Watson. Cut Arrington.

There are ways to make cap room without going deep-6.

:word forgot about both still being on the roster - we'd be fine for hte money

[GreatWhiteNorthRaven]

those would be my cuts as well, but isn't arrington still in concuss protocol?

Yeah I think it's just timing wiht him. they need to do the injury settlement.

[Jsmoove]

Yeah I think it's just timing wiht him. they need to do the injury settlement.

true true...if Nick is healthy, really truly healthy? They should not let him leave.