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    Re: NFL Owners Approve International Games



    Quote Originally Posted by Art-Florida View Post
    NFL football is the closest thing there is to organized mechanized warfare.
    The fact that more people outside of North America are becoming enamored with it is troublesome. Do we really want people in Leningrad, Limerick, London, and Dresden doing High fives and chicken noodle dances?

    Militarism. Not a good trend. Nevertheless...Go Killarney!
    Well I saw Ravens fans singing English soccer chants and throwing celery at Raiders fan this year, and that turned out OK.

    Although given the choice, I would prefer to not see Europeans doing a chicken noodle dance.




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    This idea SUCKS! I've heard or read that the league will compensate the teams that have to lose a home game, but what about the fans, and the vendors that make a living on these home games? How are they going to be compensated? The quick answer is that they won't be.

    And the notion of having a game in Germany strikes me as a little stupid -- how many people in Germany even understand the NFL, much less like it? This isn't like the NBA. They have been playing basketball over there for quite a while, but our version of football is probably pretty strange to them.

    What the hell, it's just another money grab by the league. I guess we should be used to it by now.




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    Quote Originally Posted by highwater View Post
    This idea SUCKS! I've heard or read that the league will compensate the teams that have to lose a home game, but what about the fans, and the vendors that make a living on these home games? How are they going to be compensated? The quick answer is that they won't be.

    And the notion of having a game in Germany strikes me as a little stupid -- how many people in Germany even understand the NFL, much less like it? This isn't like the NBA. They have been playing basketball over there for quite a while, but our version of football is probably pretty strange to them.

    What the hell, it's just another money grab by the league. I guess we should be used to it by now.
    Germany is the home of five NFL Europe teams, all of which draw over 15,000 fans pretty much every week. For that standard of football, frankly that's brilliant attendance.

    Yes it's a money grab, but don't doubt people's understanding of the game, there are plenty of people all over Europe who watch the game every week and have a fantastic understanding of the game. I'll watch usually 6 games a week live and various others on archive, that's readily available and there are lots who do it.

    As I've said before the London games will be played at the new Wembley and all 90,000 of those lovely new seats will be filled, with me bringing along many many many people.




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    Re: NFL Owners Approve International Games

    I think it is a great idea, so what if I lose one home game every 16 years. It means I can travel every 8 years to some cool new place to see the Ravens, introduce tailgating American style and learn tailgating British or German style. The English food would probably suck, but they are one hell of a party group. The Germans, how about those bratwursts! The NFL won't be played in Paris, after one hit the whole country would surrender to the teams on the field.




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    The English food would probably suck
    Ooooohhh, that's a low blow Greg, I'm sure we could come up with something.




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    Why does everyone pick on English food and English chefs? After a few tasty English ales, you won't really notice the food that much anyway.

    As far as the attendance at NFL Europe games, 15,000 doesn't seem like a lot to me, but UKRavenStockers makes a good point in that this is basically minor league football, and as such, maybe that really is good attendance. I don't really know. Sending two teams to Germany just still seems like an odd idea to me.

    But then again, having a game in Canada also seems weird. It's obviously not much of a trip, but why? They have their own pro football league already, and I think they are already quite familiar with the NFL. I don't think they are going to expand the fan base that much by playing a game in Canada.




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    I don't think they are going to expand the fan base that much by playing a game in Canada.
    Your probably right, since most Canadians have access to Fox and CBS anyway.

    But that's not true in Europe, Asia and Latin America (outside of Mexico the and Caribbean). Have you ever seen the viewership numbers of the Olympics? World-wide TV audiences is where the NFL is opening a new frontier.

    As to the complaints about the PSLs: it is true that PSL owners will be denied one of 128 home games every 16 years, and there's no way that the NFL teams are going to provide a 1/128th refund. On the other hand, suppose NFL revenues increase by 10-20% for world-wide broadcasting rights? Everything else being equal, ticket price increases could be mitigated.

    I think it's a good idea and an excellent scheduling plan. I am looking forward to booking flights around a Ravens game in London, Munich, Rio de Janeiro or Vancouver. It would be the most memorable road trip ever!





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    Quote Originally Posted by Mista T View Post
    I think it's a good idea and an excellent scheduling plan.
    T, why is it a good idea and an excellent scheduling plan? Aside from the fact that you might now have a reason to schedule trips to Munich and London, and that the league might take in some extra revenue, how does all that benefit the average fan? I agree that a road trip to Europe would be cool, but the average fan is not going to fly overseas for that game. This plan only benefits the owners, who have quite enough money already.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg View Post
    The NFL won't be played in Paris, after one hit the whole country would surrender to the teams on the field.
    I BLEED RAVEN PURPLE!!!




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    The first game in Wembley should be between New England and Seattle. I mean who could possibly resist a rematch between the Patriots and the SS?
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    Just watch. The NFL will screw us.

    They will have us playing Indy in Siberia coming off a short week from a Monday nighter against Pittsburgh, with an upcoming Thursday nighter against Cinci. Both on the road.

    Just watch.
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    Re: NFL Owners Approve International Games

    how does all that benefit the average fan?
    Perhaps it doesn't, but it really benefits the international fans, of which there are many




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    Quote Originally Posted by RavensInBrazil View Post
    Perhaps it doesn't, but it really benefits the international fans, of which there are many
    Sorry, but if international fans want to see a Baltimore Ravens game, let them fly to Baltimore.

    to this idea in a big way.




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    Well, we better not have a Steelers, Bengals, or Browns home game moved out. What's wrong w/ continuing to give them the preseason? Hell as far as I'm concerned, they can move out both home preseason games every year & I'll keep that ransom money they make us pay every year to have season tickets. If you want to call me selfish, go ahead. I live in PA & drive to Baltimore. I have a friend who was transfered to Cleveland for 3 years, didn't give up his tickets & came back for every home game. He's been back here for a couple years. This is the NATIONAL FOOTBALL LEAGUE, not the WORLD FOOTBALL LEAGUE,which they tried in 74 & failed.


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    Re: NFL Owners Approve International Games

    I think this attitude is a little selfish. A sacrifice of a home game in 16 years (sixteen!) is nothing compared to what it will bring for the fans around the world, who have never gotten the opportunity to go see a game of a sport they like (or even love, as is my case), or especially of their team. This will bring an increase of interest in the sport worldwide, which is great
    Selfish? Well, if it seems that I'm not all broken up about how someone 5000+ miles away can't see an NFL game in person, you're right. Especially when it takes a home game away from me. And frankly, the NFL is doing pretty well already, it does nothing for me to market it to the world audience. This is about money, nothing else.

    If you are that anxious to see a game, do what the UK folks did, get on a plane and expeirence a Ravens game in the way it was meant to be enjoyed - in Baltimore.

    EDIT: How about what travelling around the world and playing games at 3:00AM does to the players and its affect on them the next week. I'd call it a disadvantage.


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