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03-01-2017, 10:34 PM #26Legendary RSR Poster
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03-02-2017, 01:23 AM #27
Re: What are your doubts about religion/Christianity
My favorite quote from Rudy.
"There is a God. I'm not him."
All the research I've done, and studying the evidence presented by scientists, lead my to believe that God is real. Christ was born to Mary to wash away our sins. We have some bickering in the ranks, Catholic vs. Protestant, etc... but at the end of the day Christ is the only way to eternal life."A moron, a rapist, and a Pittsburgh Steeler walk into a bar. He sits down and says, “Hi I’m Ben may I have a drink please?”
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Re: What are your doubts about religion/Christianity
Correct, and that includes believing no one can be right. I believe that Jesus was who he said he was and what he said is true as a result. You believe that no one can be right, we're both acting on faith. I'm not being snarky or playing "gotcha", I'm being serious.
I do have a question. You believe there is a God (as you said earlier), do you believe that God created the universe and everything in it?
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Re: What are your doubts about religion/Christianity
That's somebody being a douche...
I couldn't take those claims serious either, which is why I researched it. As C.S. Lewis said, if Jesus was who he said he was, what he said is of the utmost importance.
Regarding the bible, I'm not expert on the bible either, ESPECIALLY the Old Testament. The New Testament however, is not a result of the "telephone game". They were written by Jesus disciples (aka students). Paul (or Saul of Tarsus) after his conversion first letters (or epistles, to the Thessalonians I believe) is written anywhere around I believe as little as 10 -14 years after Jesus death. The other Gospels are all within the first century, and there is good evidence they were all written before 70 A.D. within 40 years of Jesus death.
There are great books on this topic. Some are VERY in depth, some are more of an overview. This one I thought was good (not great) but does a good job sorting through the evidence and summarizing it. It's about a cold case homicide detective (an atheist) who was invited to church by another officer in the L.A.P.D and after going, investigated the New Testament and concluded they were eye witness accounts.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00A71Y7I8...ng=UTF8&btkr=1
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03-02-2017, 04:10 AM #30Legendary RSR Poster
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Re: What are your doubts about religion/Christianity
No, I'm applying strict logic to the issue of religion. I'm applying absolutely no faith whatsoever to the question at hand.
We, as finite beings, exist on a totally different plane as infinite beings. By logic and by definition, we cannot ever comprehend or understand anything infinite.
I believe that's certainly a possibility but again, I couldn't possibly say definitively one way or the another. Nor personally, do I really care all that much.
Again, it's an issue of trying to understand the infinite. We can't. Perhaps when we shuffle off this mortal coil we will then know the answer but before then, it's all a mystery and I'm fine with that. There much in this life we, as humans, were not meant to understand.
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03-02-2017, 05:33 AM #31
Re: What are your doubts about religion/Christianity
I'll just say that when it comes to religion, or specifically Christianity, it's all a bunch of bunk. I'm an atheist.
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Re: What are your doubts about religion/Christianity
Maybe I'm just saying it wrong. A view that no one can know, means NO ONE can know that particular view is right. Which means, even you can't know that no one can know. If you don't know something, than you believe it, or... have faith.
In the book I referenced in the first post. The author says "Ironically, the insistence that doctrines do not matter is really a doctrine itself. It holds a specific view of God, which is touted as superior and more enlightened than the beliefs of most major religions. So the proponents of this view do the very thing they forbid in others."
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"How could you possibly know that no religion can see the whole truth unless you yourself have the superior, comprehensive knowledge of spiritual reality you just claimed that none of the religions have?"
In a sense, that's what you're saying/doing. By saying it's undefinable, you have defined it yourself.
I understand where you're coming from there. Personally, I don't think a being would have created the universe/us and not given us a way to know/understand it.
What about science trying to define the universe? We try to define the origin of the universe, how big it is etc. If the universe was created by God, how can we define/understand that?
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03-02-2017, 10:42 AM #34Legendary RSR Poster
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Re: What are your doubts about religion/Christianity
I would agree that's what the author would argue. But I don't agree with the author's conclusions. I have made no definition because a factual definition is impossible. All religion is a best guess based mostly on faith.
For the sake of argument, lets say God created everything in the universe. Those "things" God created are finite -- the stars, planets, us, animals, etc -- thus are within the comprehension of finite beings.
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03-02-2017, 12:21 PM #36
Re: What are your doubts about religion/Christianity
For me - the story doesn't make sense. The premise is that Mary gave birth to Jesus without there being a father. So the Holy Spirit got Mary pregnant, out comes the baby - boom Jesus.
I guess I Don't know how i can believe that.
NOW I believe in god in the sense that there's a higher power that essentially puts out a form of a code to which I should hold myself and my values accountable for. It's not the ten commandments or anything, but I do believe that I need to conduct myself accordingly becuase there is some form of higher power standing over me and holding me accountable.
I guess I just don't buy the whole story. How did Mary get pregnant? magic?"Cause if you ain’t pissed off for greatness, that just means you’re okay with being mediocre, and ain’t no man in here okay with just basic.”
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