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    Re: Arm Strength Overrated?



    Too funny!! Now the Oline matters when you bring up other QBs and McNair. Kyle was supoosed to succeed despite the same crappy Oline?
    Of course! Remember the rules and you'll be able to play along. Boller gets no such excuses. Steve McNair gets OL, receivers dropping passes, and bad playcalling.

    Fh, it doesn't work if you don't use the double standard.

    I just think it's funny as Greg pointed out the utter stumbling over themselves to excuse an 11 year former MVP and Super Bowl QB from absolutely falling flat here in Baltimore thus far. But I predicted this before he was even signed.




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    Re: Arm Strength Overrated?

    Let's evaluate whether or not McNair "falls on his face" based on how the Ravens end-up. To do so now, quite honestly, is a bit premature!!




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    I predicted this before he was even signed.
    I had thought he was on the downside of his career, but honestly did not see him performing this badly. I truly hope that he either can turn it around to start earning the big bucks and help get the Ravens into the playoffs, or, if not: that he does the honorable thing by admitting to himself that he has lost it, and retires at the end of the season.

    btw: If he does retire, do we get any cap relief from his $11 million bonus?





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    Let's evaluate whether or not McNair "falls on his face" based on how the Ravens end-up. To do so now, quite honestly, is a bit premature!!
    Is it? What was the purpose of bringing Steve McNair here? The whole idea I thought was to put a spark in the offense and to change the way the offense has run. So exactly what has changed considering right now statistically McNair is playing worse than Kyle Boller?

    Really, McNair is going to have to play very much near lights out to pull this offense out of the rut we're in. Yes, it may look premature, but you can't tell me you're not the least bit concerned at this point?




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    Re: Arm Strength Overrated?

    They're 4-2, and tied for first with McNair at the helm. Whether or not this continues, we'll see. However, I am a bit concerned; but not with McNair. I'm concerned with a lack of a running game, and a defense which can not get off the field on critical third downs Against quality opponents.




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    Those things concern me as well, as the running game can dictate the passing game as we all know. But I am really concerned with an offense that can't finish drives, can't throw touchdowns to their wide receivers, can't run, and have actually at times gone backwards on successive possessions. That's not what a Steve McNair-led offense should look like. We really shouldn't be hoping the wind isn't blowing in Matt Stover's face so he doesn't miss a 52 yard field goal to beat Cleveland.

    If we go into NO and beat the shit out of them, and then take Cincy at home and throw 24 points up on them and win, I'll feel a whole lot better than I do right now. Right now I'm just afraid this offensive line is going to get McNair hurt again.




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    Re: Arm Strength Overrated?

    btw: If he does retire, do we get any cap relief from his $11 million bonus?
    Maybe, if his contract has a stipulation for that. Or, if he returns a portion out of the goodness of his heart. There hopefully is a contract stipulation (and probably, Barry Sanders had one as did Ricky Williams).




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    Re: Arm Strength Overrated?

    Actually, if we can put up Ws against both NO and Cincy; begin establishing our running game; have McNair manage the game successfully, Especially in Critical situations (which is the reason, I believe, the Ravens brought him here!); and have a Defense which will start playing three-and-out, then I believe we're headed in the right direction.




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    Re: Arm Strength Overrated?

    Actually, if we can put up Ws against both NO and Cincy; begin establishing our running game; have McNair manage the game successfully, Especially in Critical situations (which is the reason, I believe, the Ravens brought him here!); and have a Defense which will start playing three-and-out, then I believe we're headed in the right direction.
    I am very much in agreement with you there. But before I get excited about that, they've got to show me something in New Orleans. Right now my confidence isn't what it was after Tampa.




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    Re: Arm Strength Overrated?

    Quote Originally Posted by ravenjoe View Post
    Actually, if we can put up Ws against both NO and Cincy; begin establishing our running game; have McNair manage the game successfully, Especially in Critical situations (which is the reason, I believe, the Ravens brought him here!); and have a Defense which will start playing three-and-out, then I believe we're headed in the right direction.
    You're not asking for much are you?




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    I really believe this game in NO is critical, much in the same way the Tampa game was! If we can get a solid Victory, this should infuse some much-needed confidence into both the team (and the coaching staff) which is really needed right now! I think the team is teetering on a precipice right now, and it could either way.




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    Quote Originally Posted by FHRaven View Post
    You're not asking for much are you?
    Well, if these things don't happen, then we are Not going to advance to the next level, and see you next year!!




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    Re: Arm Strength Overrated?

    You may be right in that assessment; however, if our D can apply much-needed pressure on Palmer, especially in key situations (which they have not done in the past), And we can control the ball with a solid running game, then maybe we have a chance of pulling it out. But right now, the Bengals, IMO, are the favored team to advance as division champs. We have not established yet IMO the ability to advance to the next level.




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    Yea, and that's why our D has to Really step-it-up that game and pressure the Hell out of him (something they really have not done against the better teams this year). If not, Palmer will 'take us to the cleaners'!




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    Re: Arm Strength Overrated?

    I know, and so Rex has got to do a real good job of disguising the blitz package; otherwise, Palmer will make us pay, just like he has done in the recent past. I do believe, with the right packages, we can confuse Palmer enough in order to get a couple of key turnovers. The rest of the responsibility rides on our O, which if the running game is going (Cincy has a weak run D), and McNair does a good job of managing the game (something we have Not been able to do in the past), then maybe we can steal one.




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