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    Re: Boller Report card?



    Quote Originally Posted by RavensNTerps View Post
    He's a rhythm QB who plays much better in the no huddle....we should play to that strength.
    It does seem that way doesn't it. It may be that he likes playing at a faster pace. And did any of you notice anything different about our offensive coach in the 2nd half?

    Billick (to Boller)- "throw the ball down the left side son"
    Boller- " Coach we just ran that play"
    Billick - " Oh yea throw it down the middle"
    Boller- " to who?"
    Billick- " I don't know I'm sure someone will be open, hell your the damn quarterback I can't do everything for you"
    Boller- " ok what do you call that play"
    Billick- " the wiggle , the waggle something like that. Don't question me son I'm a damn offensive genius"




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    Re: Boller Report card?

    Quote Originally Posted by RavensNTerps View Post
    He's a rhythm QB who plays much better in the no huddle....we should play to that strength.
    I'll agree with that, he just went on a roll when we (finally) went no huddle. Who's playbook did we steal that out of??!!!

    I would give him a total B- for effort / A for the 2nd half & A+ for 4th quarter. I would give him an A+ for guts, because say what you want about the kid, & he has improved, but never question his guts. I think no one on this team is tougher for eerything he goes thru.

    The INT on the long pass to Clayton was underthrown, but at that point, Clayton needs to stop, go back & become a defender, not watch the CB catch the ball. The INT returned for the TD, in my opinion wasn't his fault but the line, for getting him killed. It seeed as if the line didn't want him QBing & were letting the Browns get to him. I guess they were pissed at Kyle or Coach Brain.


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    He was rusty as can be in the first half, then in the second half showed Billick to be a fool for Playing McNair so long. If he had started from day 1 and played all season, never ha da chance to get rusty, we may have a COMPLETELY different result of the first 10 games. He opens up the field by having the baility to go downfield. To all of those that kept saying that simply having a stronger arm, doesn't mean you are a better downfield passer may have been right, but apparently Boller has more then that, as his downfield balls 2nd half were better then we have seen from McNair in 2 years.




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    C+ and a footnote...Kyle Boller is tough as nails.




  5. Re: Boller Report card?

    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    How well would we lok to our bosses if we only did half our job?

    Billick has never had command of one side of the ball.

    Boller, most of the time, doesnt make it through an entire game without looking like a manic, trying to jump our of his shoes.

    Boller gets a C, Billick gets his 10th F of the season ....
    Houston we have problems ...Boller was on his heels most of the 1st half and Flynn was being pushed back so he couldn't step up...They did alot more chip blocking with McGahee and Sypnewski in the 2nd half, thus he was having more time to do his check downs...Boller gets a "B" from me...He got his lunch handed to him quite a few times as he stood there and trusted the pocket




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    Re: Boller Report card?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tspot-D-Ravenator View Post
    Houston we have problems ...Boller was on his heels most of the 1st half and Flynn was being pushed back so he couldn't step up...They did alot more chip blocking with McGahee and Sypnewski in the 2nd half, thus he was having more time to do his check downs...Boller gets a "B" from me...He got his lunch handed to him quite a few times as he stood there and trusted the pocket
    Must be nice to have low expectations of our QB .... so if Boller gets a B for throwing 2 pics and being a tad above .500 in completions, what gets a C or D????

    Im not saying Boller is the only one having issues. I agree with everything you said. Of course we have a banged up line thats about as transparent as Britney Spears undies. But, Boller after 5 years has not shown one glimmer of being anything different than him being the happy feet, nervous QB who has minor moments of brillance, broken up by quarter after quarter of being a 2nd rate bench warmer.

    Look, I like the guy. Anyone who can hang drink for drink with Tara Reed gets a huge from me. But neither he or McNair are the answer.
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    Who is the answer then Houston? Who could have taken that beating yesterday?

    Seriously, enough of this "oh he isn't the answer" shit. Let's start hearing it. Is Matt Ryan the answer? Is Troy Smith the answer? You think Donovan McNabb could have survived yesterday?

    Again, someone please tell me how Boller even had TIME to have happy feet. Because I'm dying to know how you have time with someone in your face every play.




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    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    Must be nice to have low expectations of our QB .... so if Boller gets a B for throwing 2 pics and being a tad above .500 in completions, what gets a C or D????

    Maybe your expectations are too high???

    Both the Sun's reader poll and the Baltimore Examiner gave Boller a "B". (I personally give him a C+, blending an F with an A, but with a tilt for livening up the game in the 4th Q).

    Many Baltimore fans were spoiled by the Colts having two outstanding "franchise" QBs in Unitas and Jones. In the NFL today, there are only a small handful of QBs who can carry their teams - Manning, Brady, Palmer, Favre, maybe Brees. Many playoff teams do not have outstanding franchise QBs. Unfortunately, the Ravens have gone for 12 seasons without a QB of this calibre (yet being a playoff contender for half of those seasons) and are likely to go another dozen years without a franchise QB.

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    C+, yes he did get some happy feet when he was under pressure but still had time to set and throw. Obviously the C+ comes from the piss poor first half and amazing second half/4th quarter.

    The one thing I really wish he would work on is rolling to his right. He gets himself into trouble when he rolls left because he can't throw across his body (alas the INT TD).

    The o-line also had a piss poor effort and you know maybe McGahee needs to step up and tell this O-line to play for Boller. Also, that first INT... yes it was an INT but Clayton has to at least attempt to make a play.

    Is he the starter of the future, that's a question the next few weeks will answer. As for now I think he has some breathing room.




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    Many Baltimore fans were spoiled by the Colts having two outstanding "franchise" QBs in Unitas and Jones.
    So this mean we need to be punished with horrid play from the Boller or whoever and except it.

    Lets not lose site. We lost the game. He had a horrible first half and also threw an ill advised pass in the second half that led to a TD. there is no way you can give an A for the second half if you actually saw the game.

    I'm going C- and thats only because Im in a good mood and see a glimmer of hope. My gut says D but Im grading with my heart.
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    I do not think anyone is saying Boller is the be all end all answer to our QB woes. He is the best we have right now. He will be here next year, in a starting position or a backup position (who knows right now). He is a competent QB who when protected can move the ball decently. I personally do not think he is the perfect answer to the problems we face, but given the current QB lineup, he is the best option. I like the guy and think that for the remainder of the season, he is our best bet at not being completely and utterly embarrassed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StingerNLG View Post
    Who is the answer then Houston? Who could have taken that beating yesterday?

    Seriously, enough of this "oh he isn't the answer" shit. Let's start hearing it. Is Matt Ryan the answer? Is Troy Smith the answer? You think Donovan McNabb could have survived yesterday?

    Again, someone please tell me how Boller even had TIME to have happy feet. Because I'm dying to know how you have time with someone in your face every play.
    I agree 100%. My point is on a larger scale. While everone here seems to argue the merits of two mediocre QB's, I wish the debate would shift to the bigger picture of aqddressing the core problems -- the O line, picking BETTER QB's, etc.

    While everone is caught in the minutae of which of our two horrible QB's we should start in a losing season, we should be looking at fresh faces to see if we have hidden talent on the team. Maybe Ryan Smith are the answer, maybe they are not. But until we see them in a game situation, we will never really know. Kyle had a few "B" games last seaosn too, but there is NOTHING he has done that has shown he is nothing more then an effective number 2 QB. And Im not going to use what some reader poll has to say when, after 5 years, he has a career rating of 76.2. I dont know who the answer is -- and thats my point! The team doesnt know who the answer is and they're supposed to know!

    Mista T, I make no apologies for having high standards and wanting our team to achive them. Wating our team to model the Pats, Colts, etc isnt a bad thing. They have shown the way on how to make a team in this age of the cap. They also have an uncanny eye for talent. Flattery is the sincerest form of flattery and we need to start emulating them NOW! When I see our QB have a barely-modest performance and people all over town give him a satisfied "B", I wanna gouge out my eyes with a rusty spoon.
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    Re: Boller Report card?

    People need to look around the league and see whats out there. Not much once you get passed the first 5 or 6 QB's. The idea that we can just reach down in the draft and pluck a QB is a pipe dream. Just go back as far as "99 and look at the first round picks Couch , Smith, McNown, Carr, Leftwich, Harrington, Grossman, ect ect . And if we do draft a QB do we rush him and play the kid the first year, very few QB's have been able to handle the pressure right off the bat. I would hate to see us waste a first round draft pick on a QB when we have such a overwhelming need for a corner back or pass rusher.




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    I give him a D for his 3 turnovers and poor completion pct.

    The Kyle Boller we saw Sunday is the Kyle Boller we'll see next year and the years following wherever he ends up.

    Hopefully this team can ascend to mediocrity with him.




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    By the way, here is something no one has talked about. Since the focus has been on how bad Boller was in the first half, and the offensive line apparently had nothing to do with that........how many rushing yards did McGahee have in the first half? 14 or something like that? How come no one is talking about his 1st half performance?



    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    I agree 100%. My point is on a larger scale. While everone here seems to argue the merits of two mediocre QB's, I wish the debate would shift to the bigger picture of aqddressing the core problems -- the O line, picking BETTER QB's, etc.
    Because for some of us, the O line is turning QB's INTO mediocre. Seriously, everyone rode the Steve McNair train when he got here. And now he's on the verge of hanging his cleats up, and he just doesn't have it anymore. And that happened overnight! Why? Because he's been beaten to death behind this OL! Injured twice! Just like Boller. Boller was injured twice behind this OL.

    That is my point Houston. Did Steve McNair just wake up one day and suck? No. And it's the same thing that's happened to Kyle Boller, Chris Redman, Jeff Blake, and Elvis Grbac. The come play behind the Ravens OL and in this putrid "offensive" system, and all of a sudden they turn mediocre.

    While everone is caught in the minutae of which of our two horrible QB's we should start in a losing season, we should be looking at fresh faces to see if we have hidden talent on the team. Maybe Ryan Smith are the answer, maybe they are not. But until we see them in a game situation, we will never really know.

    I've seen enough QB's come in and out of town to know exactly what will happen. He'll get here. He'll get the crap kicked out of him. And then he'll get gunshy or try to force his play, and he'll end up like the last 7 QB's.


    I dont know who the answer is -- and thats my point! The team doesnt know who the answer is and they're supposed to know!
    Bingo. I'll maintain the problem isn't always the QB. And the answer isn't to waste our 1st round pick on another rookie. Well, unless we just draft a running back and direct snap to him all the time.


    Wating our team to model the Pats, Colts, etc isnt a bad thing. They have shown the way on how to make a team in this age of the cap. They also have an uncanny eye for talent. Flattery is the sincerest form of flattery and we need to start emulating them NOW! When I see our QB have a barely-modest performance and people all over town give him a satisfied "B", I wanna gouge out my eyes with a rusty spoon.

    And what do you think the Pats model themselves after? Protecting the QB and allowing him to make plays. I would take New England's offensive line in a New York Minute!!

    Same with the Colts. You saw what's happened to Manning when he doesn't get his pass protection. KC did it to him. San Diego did it to him and won. We've held him down for entire halves by rushing him. When Manning can sit back there for 6 seconds and "eenie-meenie-miney-moe" across the field to his receivers, it's hard to beat.


    When our offensive line starts playing like a real NFL offensive line is supposed to, then I will bet you'll see better QB play from Boller, or whoever is back there. Otherwise you'll keep seeing the same thing you saw Sunday.


    Hell, with our OL the way it's been, I'm starting to be very thankful we didn't draft Byron Leftwich. He didn't exactly turn out to be that franchise QB either as we are seeing. He would have gotten rolled out in a hearse playing here.




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