Why don't we run it to win? Time for Billick to go.

[purplepoe]

If it were that easy to coach a team, we all would be doing it.

Please.

You run the ball AT LEAST once there for all the reasons that have been stated.

Do you have some reasoning as to why it made sense to pass on both plays?

Look, I usually try not to play Monday morning quarterback, but when Im sitting there in real time saying "run the ball" Im gonna question the decision to pass.

PP

[terpsnoone]

Billick has done this crap repeatedly this season - He just doesn't seem to get the importance of clock management

He talks about clock management in the press conferences but his actions show otherwise on the field

Throwing the ball unsuccessfully is like giving the other team an extra time-out - that is football 101

He cost us this game & the buffalo game

He almost cost us the Jets game, people forget because we won - Ray Lewis had to bail him out of that one with an int.

Come on Steve - Brian needs to go

[StingerNLG]

This is how I continue to see it.

1) Billick has to give up the offensive playcalling duties.

2) Billick has to go.

Those are the only two options as I see it.

[FHRaven]

This is how I continue to see it.

1) Billick has to give up the offensive playcalling duties.

2) Billick has to go.

Those are the only two options as I see it.

I'll go a step farther and say he has to give up playcalling AND allow the new OC to install a brand new system.

I'd like to know what the players thought of those 2 pass plays. Especially after Billick's comments on doing the same thing in the Buffalo game.

[Greg]

I'll go a step farther and say he has to give up playcalling AND allow the new OC to install a brand new system.

I'd like to know what the players thought of those 2 pass plays. Especially after Billick's comments on doing the same thing in the Buffalo game.

Billick's system has running plays. He could have still run the ball.

All NFL teams have the same plays in the playbook, they run the same running plays, blocking schemes, pass routes, etc.

Billick is just not a good in-game manager. He needs too much time to plot things out and plan. When things are happening fast he misses details and logic. When he has time he covers every little thing. He needs a person who may not be as detail oriented as he is but thinks better on his feet, in the heat of the action. I am like that, I am much better in stressful situations than most people, but I am not a great organizer and planner. It is a different skill set and he needs to learn that.

[festivus]

Casey Willet commented this afternoon that, behind closed doors, players who have played for more than one coach speak very highly of Billick *as a HC.*

It struck me as consistent with what many have suggested here, some like DF have suggested on the radio, that Billick will return but the offense will be stripped from him.

Makes sense to me.

[flraven]

I think that Festivus is right on, BB stays but has the offense given totally to an OC who has autonomy to call plays and change strategy as the game dictates. BB is a good head coach, but the in-game strategy should be on someone else. Neuheisel? His Huskies were pretty good back in the day.

Myself, I don't think they should fire BB, but if it happens, Rex Ryan should be the "next man up" to replace him.

[HoustonRaven]

Stripping Billick of his play calling duties could prove fatal.

Billick's ego is wont alow him to do it himself. Therefor, it will take Ozzie, Bisciotti or both to strip him of the job of calling the offensive plays.

The by-product of this will be Billicks command of the locker being compromised and his authority reduced to nothing.

IMO, Billick assuming control of the offense was a zero sum game. He cant go back now unless it of his own choice .... or at least made to appear that way to the team and the media.

[WxKevin]

Billick's system has running plays. He could have still run the ball.

All NFL teams have the same plays in the playbook, they run the same running plays, blocking schemes, pass routes, etc.

Billick is just not a good in-game manager. He needs too much time to plot things out and plan. When things are happening fast he misses details and logic. When he has time he covers every little thing. He needs a person who may not be as detail oriented as he is but thinks better on his feet, in the heat of the action. I am like that, I am much better in stressful situations than most people, but I am not a great organizer and planner. It is a different skill set and he needs to learn that.

I absolutely agree Greg. I still believe he is a good Head Coach in the way he handles the team, protects his players and handles the media. I have said this for many years now but Billick is a genius when it comes to handling the media! He makes me laugh because he uses these terms and phrases that sound like he is an asshole but what he is actually doing is bringing attention to himself and off of his players. It's brilliant!

That being said he does not handle the in-game stuff well, like Greg mentioned. He needs somebody to handle that stuff for him.

I guess the reason I sympathize with Billick during his in-game stuff sometime is because I am just like the description Greg provided. I am horrible in stressful situations. I have to plan everything out and get annoyed when things are not. I was also the person in college who had their papers done days prior to them being due because I couldn't handle the pressure of writing a paper the night before.

My final point is that if Billick is not going to give up control of the offense and game management, then I don't think he should be brought back. Even though I like him as a HC, something has to change.

[b-more_4_Life]

Casey Willet commented this afternoon that, behind closed doors, players who have played for more than one coach speak very highly of Billick *as a HC.*

It struck me as consistent with what many have suggested here, some like DF have suggested on the radio, that Billick will return but the offense will be stripped from him.

Makes sense to me.

Of course the veterans on the Ravens speak highly of him. He let's them have it easy during training camp and takes it easy on them during the season. That works great when nobody is expecting the Ravens to be good. However, in years such as this one where there are a lot of expectations this approach kills the Ravens.

Veterans end up getting hurt because Billick does not have them physically and mentally ready. You could see this on opening night in Cincy and it has carried on throughout the year. Billick's approach has worn thin. I for one would like to have a consistently good team instead of this one good year one bad year that has happened because of Billick's approach toward the veterans.

Treat everyone the same; stop coddling the veterans!

[ExiledRaven]

Casey Willet commented this afternoon that, behind closed doors, players who have played for more than one coach speak very highly of Billick *as a HC.*

It struck me as consistent with what many have suggested here, some like DF have suggested on the radio, that Billick will return but the offense will be stripped from him.

Makes sense to me.

I actually agree with this if it were to really happen. This means no Billick system, no Billick input, the OC runs the show.

Then Billick can do what he does best, and Festivus is right, about every single player talks about how great Billick is as a HC. For instance, Trevor Pryce asked Shannon Sharpe about the Baltimore offer and what it was like to play there and Sharpe said something similar to "If you get a chance to play for Brian Billick you need to go" That's a great thing.

All that said, the offensive system and playcalling in general is dirt along with some very mediocre to bad offensive subordinates in my opinion.

Time will tell

[WxKevin]

Of course the veterans on the Ravens speak highly of him. He let's them have it easy during training camp and takes it easy on them during the season. That works great when nobody is expecting the Ravens to be good. However, in years such as this one where there are a lot of expectations this approach kills the Ravens.

Veterans end up getting hurt because Billick does not have them physically and mentally ready. You could see this on opening night in Cincy and it has carried on throughout the year. Billick's approach has worn thin. I for one would like to have a consistently good team instead of this one good year one bad year that has happened because of Billick's approach toward the veterans.

Treat everyone the same; stop coddling the veterans!

If you look at the Ravens record in November and December since Billick has been the head coach you will see it is one of the best. In my opinion and others as well, this is due to the team being realtively fresh because they didn't beat each other up in training camp.

If you look at the Ravens record in September under Billick, the record is not quite as good. This may be due to them not being in "football" shape.

I don't know what the answer is when it comes to how hard they should be hitting in training camp. Most likely there is no right answer because what works for one p erson on the team might not work for another person on the team.

But if anybody is intimating that this year is due to Billick not having the players beat each other up in training camp, I could not disagree more.