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  1. #31

    Re: Can Billick improve the offense: Why or Why not?



    Quote Originally Posted by Mista T View Post
    First thing he should do is re-sign Alan Ricard!



    Talk about stubborn...

    Ricard is BUSTED...



































    but he would still be a better use of a roster spot than Moore




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    Re: Can Billick improve the offense: Why or Why not?

    I will go out on a limb and say that the offense will be at least 25% better in the next six games than in the last six games by the stat that counts -- total points. We're at 18.3 points a game -- so that's an increase to 23 points / game. If we do that, with our defense we'll be over .500 for those games

    There is a HUGE difference between delegating something and having ultimate accountability and going back and doing it yourself.

    I think Billick is looking forward to the challenge and hearkening back to his days as an offensive coordinator. He trusts Rex enough not to worry about the defense (can't say the same about special teams). The players will rally around him and execute better. And the repercussions will be immediate -- Jamal sucking -- lets just switch to Musa.

    Remember that a number of coaches do this today -- Reid, Shanahan and Parcell to name a few -- so it is doable.

    I personally thnk that the Billick haters have lost perspective. Its like hearing my father in law in Philadelphia whine about how bad Donovan McNabb is.




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    Re: Can Billick improve the offense: Why or Why not?

    I realize that all points count and don't get me wrong I'm grateful, but it keeps rumbling in my brain that 13 of our points Sunday could just as easily have dropped to the ground as incomplete passes or worse yet been interceptions. I think we have gotten lucky a lot this season but I don't think we can count on that every week. My concern is, is our offense even as good as the stats have it? As I say, I'll take a win any way we can get it but it just bothers me a bit.
    It also bothers me that if Billick can't turn this around fast are the bitching players going to erupt again? I honestly don't think it's entirely the offense being called I think we have problems with execution that aren't going to just disappear. I don't think some players are taking responsibility for their part in all this, it's just to easy to crab about others and lay the blame there. Now that they have run Fassel out how long before Billick is their next target?




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    Re: Can Billick improve the offense: Why or Why not?

    Quote Originally Posted by Greg View Post
    The system isn't the issue, many teams employ the same system. The plays in Billick's playbook are in everybody else's.

    It is a combination of the OL talent and the strategy employed in the game plan. We need to pound the ball to wear down the opposing DL, at least for a few series. This is how we can make our weak OL at least adequate.

    Fassel's plan was to play to the strengths of the skill players and that is fine except it ignored our OL weakness. Our first course of action needs to be to run right at the best pass rusher on the other side and let our OL beat on him.

    Maybe this won't help, but it can't hurt.

    Rack that Greg,I couldnt have said it better myself.Everyone always wants to focus on the "skill players" and ignore the real root of the problem,the O line.'

    If the line cant pass block or open up holes in the running game I dont care if we had LT,Moss or Johnny U back there it wouldnt matter one bit.




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    Re: Can Billick improve the offense: Why or Why not?

    Absolutely true, the offensive line puts limitations on the degree of creativity.




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    Here's the other issue. So now do the players feel like they have "control" over Billick? Now if Jamal still doesn't feel like he's getting the carries is he going to be able to whine again until Billick gives in? Will the players be able to pretty much run the lockeroom now because they helped get Jim Fassel fired?




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    Re: Can Billick improve the offense: Why or Why not?

    It sounds to me like the players have been running the lockerroom since last season. They came close to getting Billick canned last season, they have gotten Fassel canned this season I'd say it's a safe bet that Billick is already back in the crosshairs.




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    Quote Originally Posted by highwater View Post
    I have no idea why anyone should think this will be a problem -- head coaches, from high school on up, tend to get in the faces of players who play badly. Who cares if Jamal whines like a whimpering bitch if he doesn't like the number of carries he gets? He's not the coach! Same goes for Mason.

    I think Billick taking over the play calling is probably a good move, but the players need to shut up. Go out there and play.
    You're right I agree with you the players should just go out there and play, but Billick isn't in the Bill Parcells mold and the Ravens aren't an organization run like the Patriots under Belichek (the players appear to have more say and power). Billick has portrayed himself as a "player's coach" and the Ravens have went out of their way to be an organization open to the public and media and player friendly. Billick has always had a comfort zone or level of separation from the offense since he's been the head coach even when he did call the plays in 99. I am only saying I can forsee a situation where Billick throws his usual fit and 10 seconds later has to switch gears into OC mode and go over to the offense to discuss something and walla, we'll have ourselves a T.O. moment when one of our players blows up on him. I am not saying I don't think Billick should get into the players faces, but the overblown tirades he goes on might piss off a player and in the heat of the moment they might bite back. The funny thing is that I am a Billick supporter and his tirades usually make me laugh, cause I'm usually yelling and screaming at the TV at the same time. I don't want any of this to happen and I would not like to see the guy get fired.. I just think that maybe he will need to change or tone down his reactions on the sideline if he's going to deal with the players more.
    Last edited by skimmy; 10-19-2006 at 09:45 AM.




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    Re: Can Billick improve the offense: Why or Why not?

    I think it will improve. It appears now that the animosity the players were showing was aimed at Fassel and not Billick. Billick saw the same problems the players did, and since Fassel was unwilling to listen, the change was made.

    Some are saying the inmates are running the asylum now and that is a problem. If it was just Jamal, I would agree, but I don't think Mason and Ogden are malcontents. For them to be as vocal as they were there must have been some pretty glaring and obvious problems that needed to be addressed. Hopefully once they are, we will see a change, not to a 1998 Vikings, but to a 1999 Ravens.

    People tend to forget that in 1999, once the Water Buffalo and Stoney Case fiasco was put to rest, the offense was pretty productive. This was the last year that Billick played a major role in play calling. I would also suggest our offensive fire power is much greater than it was in 1999.




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    Re: Can Billick improve the offense: Why or Why not?

    Billick can shut up all the players whining next game if he does this.

    Let Jamal take the vast majority of carries in the first half. Get Mason and Heap involved in the first series...it will open up the running game. If Jamal does well then he will shut up. If not Billick can turn to Musa and MA in the second half.

    Make adjustments at half if that game plan doesn't work. The NO defense is not great...we can beat that team if the offense shows up. Because you can bet Cincy will come here in week 9 looking to crush us.

    FM
    Last edited by Fanman; 10-19-2006 at 11:26 AM.




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    Quote Originally Posted by highwater View Post
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    I think Billick taking over the play calling is probably a good move, but the players need to shut up. Go out there and play.
    I said the same damn thing on another thread..

    Quit yer friggin whinning and DO YOUR DAMN JOB!!!

    and remember Jamal, Theres no "I" in TEAM.

    oh god, how fuckin lame was THAT!!!




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    Re: Can Billick improve the offense: Why or Why not?

    Another thing to keep in mind about Jamal: he knows he is out of a job after this year if he doesn't produce since the Ravens can pull the deal after one year. Jamal's motives for wanting more carries is more financially slanted vs Superbowl slanted if you ask me. He wants a big contract from some team next year...the better stats he puts up the greater chance of some team throwing him lot of cash next year.

    FM
    Last edited by Fanman; 10-19-2006 at 11:51 AM.




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    Re: Can Billick improve the offense: Why or Why not?

    I agree with you Fanman, money is definitely Jamal's primary motivation. Unfortunately, more and more you hear the talking heads questioning whether or not he still has "it". I think he will find it hard to land the big contract he is seeking.




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    Re: Can Billick improve the offense: Why or Why not?

    I think if he has a good to above avg year there are several teams that would take a flyer on Jamal next year:

    NY Giants (esp is Barber retires)
    NY Jets
    Green Bay
    Cleveland (they would ditch Droughns)

    FM




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    Re: Can Billick improve the offense: Why or Why not?

    I'm sure there are any number of teams that would try him out I just don't think it will be for the money he's envisioning.




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