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  1. #16

    Re: Billick: Boller could possibly start remainder of season.



    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenbird View Post
    You are setting the bar way too high if that consistantly is "Measured Improvement". 18 for 30 with 225 yards and 3 td's to 1 int with is a qb rating over 100 (mvp type numbers in any year but this). even 2 td's and 1 int is a 90 rating. There are 7 qb's in the nfl this year (with a decent amount of td's obviously i am not including a backup with 2 td's and 1 int in total) that have a 2 to 1 ratio or better. If he put up those numbers in all 7 games the ravens would no way be looking for a qb in the draft. I think he will do well if Brian lets him throw the ball more than 5 yard at a time.
    I'll take a step up from what I've seen in spot work so far. His fumbles have been almost nil, keep that up. His decision making HAS gotten better, no matter what the self-proclaimed "veteran" (still makes me laugh) fan wants to try and make you believe. And he does seem calmer in the pocket now than before.

    I can deal with 250 yards and a touchdown if we're winning games and he's putting the team in place to win with rushing touchdowns and field goals. Don't forget a QB gets no credit for Willis scoring a TD.

    Just show me you can be competitive against New England and Indy. Beat Cleveland and Pittsburgh. DEFINATELY beat Miami. Hell, Indy CAN be beat, especially here at home without Dwight Freeney. I don't expect to beat New England, even if we had Peyton Manning (and Peyton couldn't beat the Patriots with his team anyway).

    Lead the team, and the rest will fall into place. Grab the reins, and lead your team.




  2. #17

    Re: Billick: Boller could possibly start remainder of season.

    I just want consistancy.

    Of course his decisionmaking has gotten better. It is still inconsistant though.

    And Please...PLEASE win a game on the road. Besides some inconsistant moments, this is by far my biggest complaint.

    He is pretty good at home...competant and at times can be spectacular. But on the road, he reverts to bad mechanics, is more prone to panic, and inconsistant.

    He'll get his chances...At San Diego will be tough, as will Seattle. I'm basically willing to give him a pass against the colts and Pats...I don't really expect us to be in those games no matter who is the QB (I will be VERY pleasantly surprised if we are and Boller leads the way), but it would be nice to see some offense on the road.




  3. #18

    Re: Billick: Boller could possibly start remainder of season.

    Quote Originally Posted by Raveninwoodlawn View Post
    I just want consistancy.

    Of course his decisionmaking has gotten better. It is still inconsistant though.

    And Please...PLEASE win a game on the road. Besides some inconsistant moments, this is by far my biggest complaint.

    He is pretty good at home...competant and at times can be spectacular. But on the road, he reverts to bad mechanics, is more prone to panic, and inconsistant.

    He'll get his chances...At San Diego will be tough, as will Seattle. I'm basically willing to give him a pass against the colts and Pats...I don't really expect us to be in those games no matter who is the QB (I will be VERY pleasantly surprised if we are and Boller leads the way), but it would be nice to see some offense on the road.

    Bingo.

    PP




  4. #19

    Re: Billick: Boller could possibly start remainder of season.

    Quote Originally Posted by Raveninwoodlawn View Post
    I just want consistancy.

    Of course his decisionmaking has gotten better. It is still inconsistant though.

    And Please...PLEASE win a game on the road. Besides some inconsistant moments, this is by far my biggest complaint.

    He is pretty good at home...competant and at times can be spectacular. But on the road, he reverts to bad mechanics, is more prone to panic, and inconsistant.

    He'll get his chances...At San Diego will be tough, as will Seattle. I'm basically willing to give him a pass against the colts and Pats...I don't really expect us to be in those games no matter who is the QB (I will be VERY pleasantly surprised if we are and Boller leads the way), but it would be nice to see some offense on the road.
    Absoutely agreed. And the Chargers and Seahawks can be beaten at home. I don't see anything special about either team. The Chargers are going to win their division because the AFC West sucks and the Broncos and Chiefs aren't any competition for them. Same with the Seahawks. We've already beaten all three other teams in that division.

    Define a pass for Indy and Pats though. I am not expecting him to win either game, but I think Indy can be beaten. But I am expecting him to put up respectable numbers.

    ALTHOUGH..........at home on national TV, Boller somehow tends to turn it on a little more (Packers and Vikings come to mind).




  5. #20

    Re: Billick: Boller could possibly start remainder of season.

    A pass means that I don't expect him to beat either team.

    In fact, I don't think the game will be close...Brian will go in with a short passing shitty gameplan and we will fall behind...and with this team, being behind by more than 7 is as good as a loss.

    I'm not saying a pass as in a horrible game...but if the game goes the way I expect, it won't be pretty because he will be playing catch up with an archaic offense.




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    Re: Billick: Boller could possibly start remainder of season.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenbird View Post
    You are setting the bar way too high if that consistantly is "Measured Improvement". 18 for 30 with 225 yards and 3 td's to 1 int with is a qb rating over 100 (mvp type numbers in any year but this). even 2 td's and 1 int is a 90 rating. There are 7 qb's in the nfl this year (with a decent amount of td's obviously i am not including a backup with 2 td's and 1 int in total) that have a 2 to 1 ratio or better. If he put up those numbers in all 7 games the ravens would no way be looking for a qb in the draft. I think he will do well if Brian lets him throw the ball more than 5 yards at a time.
    Fair enough...maybe I got ahead of myself, but Billick needs to let him soar on his own power. That truly remains to be seen though and I don't think Billick will open it up......but we'll have to find out this weekend because I think the Browns are gonna come out throwing!!!




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    Re: Billick: Boller could possibly start remainder of season.

    Quote Originally Posted by Raveninwoodlawn View Post
    A pass means that I don't expect him to beat either team.

    In fact, I don't think the game will be close...Brian will go in with a short passing shitty gameplan and we will fall behind...and with this team, being behind by more than 7 is as good as a loss.

    I'm not saying a pass as in a horrible game...but if the game goes the way I expect, it won't be pretty because he will be playing catch up with an archaic offense.
    I would agree, Billick will be timid with the gameplan against the Colts and Pats and it could get ugly quick!!




  8. #23

    Re: Billick: Boller could possibly start remainder of season.

    Let him play without the thought of being yanked for a bad pass or two, i am pretty much convinced that this season is over turn him loose and lets see what he can do. Throw the ball down the field and can we please get in the endzone at least once before the yaer is over.




  9. #24

    Re: Billick: Boller could possibly start remainder of season.

    Sigh. Ok Tex, I don't know why you insist on getting slapped around. But sometimes your stupidity reaches no bounds.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tex Ritter View Post
    Once again you never cease to amaze me with your oblivious "tenderfoot" view of blaming the QB woes so prevalent over the years with the Ravens on anything but the real problem-which anyone can see if they only look and that is, lack of consistent talent year to year at the QB position.
    This from the same guy who asked why Rick Neuheisal doesn't deserve any blame for the offensive problems with the Ravens. That right there shows how utterly stupid you really are. Veteran fan my ass.

    Now, hold your face out a little more........littttttle more. Here it comes........

    Since all your hate spews towards Kyle Boller, it's almost like you believe Kyle was causing QB issues back when Tony Banks was QB'ing.

    In 2001 we acquired Elvis Grbac who didn't want to restructure his contract with Kansas City. Oh yeah, you're right. He sucked before coming here. He only threw for 4164 yards, 28 touchdowns, and went to the Pro Bowl in 2000. One year here and not only did he not want to restructure with us, the guy got so beat up here he retired from football altogether. Didn't even want to come back to the Bengals. Nice job offense. Let's go looking again.

    Jeff Blake, 2002. Here's a guy who went to the Pro Bowl in 1995. Had some success with Cincinatti. Comes here, goes down the drain. Pretty much ruins his NFL career after a stint here and Arizona. Oh, but that must all be Kyle Boller's fault.

    Chris Redman. Your old hero, right? And should have been. Redman completed his college career as the NCAA Division I-A career leader in passing completions (1,031) and attempts (1,679). His 12,541 career passing yards ranked third behind Brigham Young's Ty Detmer (15,031 yards) and Louisiana Tech's Tim Rattay (12,746). Redman threw 84 touchdown passes and 51 interceptions and still holds virtually every single game, single season and career passing record at the University of Louisville. You'd think that would translate into at least somewhat of a successful career in the NFL. Well, we all know what the Ravens did to him. Where is he playing now? Granted he got injured as well. But he wasn't exactly lighting up the scoreboard here.

    And now we have McNair and Boller, who have each been injured multiple times playing behind this offensive line, and setup to do nothing but dink and dunk the ball all game long. And now McNair is done.

    I don't even want to go into things like no WR's until recently, offensive lines that specialized in retiring and injuring quarterbacks rather than pass or run blocking, no running back in 2001, injuries, etc:. I'm afraid your mind couldn't take all that.


    Now, if you "veteran" NFL fan (you realize this is still a big joke to us don't you?) don't see the pattern in this, then you are even more stupid than I think you are right now. And that would take some serious effort at this point.


    You mistakenly believe like the "dink and dunk" offense is the problem, yet that type of offense has only been a recent change.
    Oh really? I guess if you call 1999 "recent", then you are getting more senile than stupid. But ok.

    I have to stop now because I have actually given you too much of my attention. Unfortunately, you really are like a brick wall, and I am glad that noone of any sane or level-headed stature actually believes you are a fan of anything. You are one of those "pretend" fans. You pretend to know things that you don't. And you make statements that are so outlandish and funny (our offensive line is just as good as Pittsburgh's continues to come to mind, or no QB in NFL history has ever succeeded throwing more interceptions than touchdowns), that I still often wonder why you don't understand how all but maybe one person here wants to 1) associate with you, or 2) take you the least bit seriously.

    It wouldn't be so bad if you weren't so ignorant of actual and real football knowledge. But unfortunately you are.

    And now you've had your 10 minutes of attention. That's all you'll get from me in this thread. And believe me when I tell you any response you type will be a waste of keystrokes because it will not get read. I can't continue to come down to where you are, it hurts my head too much. Here's something you'll understand......
    Last edited by StingerNLG; 11-15-2007 at 09:17 PM.




  10. #25

    Re: Billick: Boller could possibly start remainder of season.

    Sink or Swim time for the Boller huggers, and the waters look mighty choppy.




  11. #26

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevlar View Post
    Sink or Swim time for the Boller huggers, and the waters look mighty choppy.
    With one or possibly two exceptions, there are no Boller "huggers" on this board.

    Just people who have every reason to hope Boller will outperform McNair.
    Festivus

    His definitions and arguments were so clear in his own mind that he was unable to understand how any reasonable person could honestly differ with him.




  12. #27

    Re: Billick: Boller could possibly start remainder of season.

    Quote Originally Posted by festivus View Post
    With one or possibly two exceptions, there are no Boller "huggers" on this board.

    Just people who have every reason to hope Boller will outperform McNair.
    More like people who just want some final stability at the QB position, and Boller just happens to be the most recent young guy in history. If it makes people like Kevlar feel better, you could have inserted Redman's name if he was the present drafted QB. If this doesn't work, you can insert whoever gets drafted next into the sentence.

    It's real easy to hate, like people like Kevlar and Tex show us. It takes effort as a real Ravens fan to have hope.




  13. #28

    Re: Billick: Boller could possibly start remainder of season.

    Stinger I would love to see continuity at qb but I would like to see production from that position first. We will see how the rest of the season goes but as I said elsewhere, my expectations are low. If Boller gives the Ravens 24/34 passing with 195 yards, 2 td's and a pick then we win, and I'll be happy, even though those numbers are not the level of production I *really* want.

    In the end, there are a number of positions on the roster where we could use a lot of improvement going into next year, and quarterback is one of them. Maybe not as dire a need as cb, but right up there with de, in my book.
    Festivus

    His definitions and arguments were so clear in his own mind that he was unable to understand how any reasonable person could honestly differ with him.




  14. #29

    Re: Billick: Boller could possibly start remainder of season.

    Quote Originally Posted by festivus View Post
    Stinger I would love to see continuity at qb but I would like to see production from that position first. We will see how the rest of the season goes but as I said elsewhere, my expectations are low. If Boller gives the Ravens 24/34 passing with 195 yards, 2 td's and a pick then we win, and I'll be happy, even though those numbers are not the level of production I *really* want.

    In the end, there are a number of positions on the roster where we could use a lot of improvement going into next year, and quarterback is one of them. Maybe not as dire a need as cb, but right up there with de, in my book.
    Don't get me wrong Festivus, I don't begrudge you that point. We need production from that position, absolutely. My issue is we've said we've needed QB production improvement since basically the Super Bowl. So we've gone out and acquired multiple pro-bowl QB's, and drafted high so we could get those QB's. And every time there has always been issues with other parts of the offense that simply haven't allowed a QB to work out like successful teams do.

    Elvis was the biggest example I have. He had an incredible year before we signed him. 4100+ yards and just coming off a Pro-Bowl. Then he comes here, gets pounded behind an offensive line that lost Leon Searcy in camp, and Terry Allan as the running back because we lost Jamal Lewis in camp. And I had ferocious arguements with my friends over Grbac, just like we have over Boller now. They said it was all Grbac, and even back then I was blaming Billick and the lack of an offensive line. So for me, this arguement about the QB position goes back well before Boller.

    We just now have legit receivers to throw to, and our offensive line is getting a bit better although still not there yet. So if we can unchain our offensive gameplan from "just manage the game, and try not to lose", to "go out and have fun, and win", then a QB has a chance here.

    I'd rather be able to spend our 1st round pick on a CB or DE, rather than another QB who we're going to bring into the system to fail.




  15. #30

    Re: Billick: Boller could possibly start remainder of season.

    I dunno. A lot of this talk about the failure of the 'system' seems to gloss over the success we had in our passing game last year, until week 17. Not counting Grbac, I think we have had for Billick's entire tenure here a string of bad - mediocre quarterbacks. It's not like any of them left the Ravens to go light it up for somebody else, it's just a position where for whatever reason the dice have not rolled in our favor.

    But we are each repeating things we've said elsewhere, and I don't want to belabor the point.
    Festivus

    His definitions and arguments were so clear in his own mind that he was unable to understand how any reasonable person could honestly differ with him.




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