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  1. #31

    Re: Keep your heads up, there is some hope now



    Quote Originally Posted by crazyraven View Post

    I just find it funny that a boller basher is taking issue with pot shots.
    Thank you, Crazy.

    As for taking a sabatical, not going to happen. If Boller doesn't do well, I look forward to Troy Smith getting a shot.


    PP, I don't think you understand my thing with McNair. Its not taking shots at him, its telling the truth. He's been washed up for the last 8 games or so. It'd be like recognizing that Johnny U was washed up as a Charger. Its not hate, its truth.


    I just didn't think the Ravens ship needed to go down with McNair's career.


    A few year ago, you and others thought that the Ravens ship didn't need to go down with Boller's career.


    The only differences are 1) now the shoe is on the other foot 2) Boller is a young QB (still only 26) who probably needed more time to develop than we gave him.


    I look forward to seeing whether his year 1/2 layoff as backup has helped him mature.


    And like I said, seeing the deep completions he's had recently to any of our WRs, along with the deep ATTEMPTS PERIOD, gives me hope. More than I've had than with McNair since the 2nd half of last year.




  2. #32

    Re: Keep your heads up, there is some hope now

    Quote Originally Posted by ClericBlackDave View Post
    Thank you, Crazy.

    PP, I don't think you understand my thing with McNair. Its not taking shots at him, its telling the truth. He's been washed up for the last 8 games or so. It'd be like recognizing that Johnny U was washed up as a Charger. Its not hate, its truth.
    Wait one second. I bashed Boller's play. I never questioned the guy's heart or desire to win.

    Dave, you have posted numerous times about McNair's heart and that he's really a Titan etc......

    Bashing a guy for his play (i.e. Boller for me) is expected.

    I absolutely understand "your thing" with McNair. You whined from the beginning about him and you know damn well you took countless shots about more than just his play on the field.

    You can pretend you didn't but I sat here and read it over and over myself.

    While there are many things that are different between Boller and McNair (age, arm strength, style) there is one thing they both share. Heart and desire.

    I'd love nothing more than Boller to succeed. I've said as much countless times on this board. That happening would solve a huge problem for this team. I fully admit I am skeptical but there is no other option now. Give him the ball for 7 games and see what he can do.

    PP




  3. #33

    Re: Keep your heads up, there is some hope now

    I bashed Boller's play. I never questioned the guy's heart or desire to win.
    CBD didnt question Mcnairs desire or heart either. He Bashed Mcnair, cause he has it coming to him. It sucks that CBD can say these things about Mcnair especially when we are all ravens fans and all hope for the best but right now, he's on the money about him.
    WOW! I feel so fortunate that the Ravens did what they had to do to make this happen. Thank you. My Heart is with the Raven....My Heart is with Baltimore and its great fans. What can I say. Here We Go!!! --Ray Lewis
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  4. #34

    Re: Keep your heads up, there is some hope now

    Quote Originally Posted by crazyraven View Post
    CBD didnt question Mcnairs desire or heart either. He Bashed Mcnair, cause he has it coming to him. It sucks that CBD can say these things about Mcnair especially when we are all ravens fans and all hope for the best but right now, he's on the money about him.

    Again, let me stress, that after Boller gets his final shot, I'm also totally ok with Troy Smith coming in or a miraculous (unlikely) recovery of Steve McNair.


    But essentially, everyone who has been shouting that McNair was fine since his starting downhill 2nd half last year was wrong.


    Honestly, I understand defending players against criticism, but they need an excuse thats at least half valid. Maybe last year McNair was worn out, didn't know the system, etc. But this year, there was no excuse.


    Anyway, I think there's hope now that we can steal one from the colts at home, the chargers away, and if Boller happens to have another vikings/packers game in him, play the patriots tough.


    here we go . . .




  5. #35

    Re: Keep your heads up, there is some hope now

    Quote Originally Posted by crazyraven View Post
    CBD didnt question Mcnairs desire or heart either. He Bashed Mcnair, cause he has it coming to him. It sucks that CBD can say these things about Mcnair especially when we are all ravens fans and all hope for the best but right now, he's on the money about him.
    Yes, he did.

    On this thread? No.

    But in many others over the past year?

    Absolutely.

    What are you talking about? We are all (at least 99%) in agreement that McNair has been stunningly putrid this season and his play has been a huge reason why we are sitting here at 4-5.

    Dave was certainly the lead in his assessment of McNair.


    PP




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