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10-17-2006, 01:49 PM #13
Re: Team is headed for a meltdown after a loss to New Orleans
On Cold Pizza today, Skip Bayless is reporting that it was a defensive mutiny that caused Fassel to be ousted. He says Ray and Ed were furious at the play call in Denver, with Clarence Moore on Champ Bailey. They were going to bat for McNair who was being a good soldier and running the play that was called.
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10-17-2006, 01:58 PM #14Pro Bowl Poster
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Re: Team is headed for a meltdown after a loss to New Orleans
I saw that too, and although it might be true, I'm sure as hell not going to trust a clown like Skip Bayless.
I don't know exactly what happened here, but I'm not going to assume that Billick just decided to go along with the objections of a few players and fire a friend of his. The opinions of some key players may have been a factor, but that can't have been the only reason Billick did this. He has gotten in the faces of some of his players before, he does not have a history of being afraid of his stars, so I think there was more to this than just Billick doing what a few whining players wanted.
And Jamal and Mason need to shut the hell up, especially Jamal. When you need three quarters of non-productive running plays to wear down the defense, then you aren't very good. A lot of running backs actually gain yardage in the first and second quarters.
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10-17-2006, 01:59 PM #15
Re: Team is headed for a meltdown after a loss to New Orleans
It's a moot point now but the play that was called necesitated a high pass to take advantage of Moore's height. That was the whole idea, so McNair did not run the play that was called, even if Ray & Ed thought so. I am by no means defending the overall playcalling but on that particular play, lack of execution nullified a physical advantage for us.
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10-17-2006, 02:10 PM #16
Re: Team is headed for a meltdown after a loss to New Orleans
When the play is called the OC doesn't know who will line up on Moore, who just came into the game. McNair also has the authority to audible, throw the ball away, throw to another receiver or throw it high enough so only Moore can get it.
I am highly skeptical of Bayless. I can't see Reed or Lewis getting pissed trying to get a TD. That was McNair's mistake, not Fassel's.
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10-17-2006, 02:17 PM #17Regular 1st Stringer
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Re: Team is headed for a meltdown after a loss to New Orleans
Whiule I don't put much value on anything Baylass says and I'm sure we are going to hear six thousand "inside stories" on what went down I don't think it can be totally discounted either. Ray has had a love affair with McNair since before he got here so him leaping to McNair's defense wouldn't surprise me and since Ray and Reed seem tight again it also wouldn't surprise me if he jumped on the band wagon. It does seem pretty clear to me that the players are running the team.
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10-17-2006, 02:43 PM #18
Re: Team is headed for a meltdown after a loss to New Orleans
Skip Bayless is full of sh*t every morning. I was just passing along what he said.
And I fully realize that throw to Moore was terrible. One of many terrible throws really. But I don't care if Clarence Moore is 9 ft. tall with springs on his feet --- it is never a good match-up or a physical advantage to line up our worst reciever against the best corner (sorry CMac) in the league.
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10-17-2006, 03:08 PM #19Pro Bowl Poster
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Re: Team is headed for a meltdown after a loss to New Orleans
Last week was the most proficient our offense has been all season. Do you think it's possible Billick got pissed at Fassel partially through the game and started calling the game himself?
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10-17-2006, 03:11 PM #20
Re: Team is headed for a meltdown after a loss to New Orleans
At this point, I see this team losing to a better New Orleans team and McNair throwing a few INTs and the offense continuing to be abysmal.
Billick has 2 choices in his playcalling: turtle up and run the ball 30 times to satisfy inmate #1 (Jamal Lewis)
OR Open it up and let McNair's dead arm probably stink it up to satisfy inmate #2 (D Mason)
I'm afraid that option 2 would be a disaster, like 3 or 4 interceptions. Many of us can see that McNair doesn't have it anymore, particularly if it's a shootout game. Why can't the coaches?
I would not be surprised to see us as 7 point underdogs.
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10-17-2006, 03:51 PM #21
Re: Team is headed for a meltdown after a loss to New Orleans
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10-17-2006, 03:53 PM #22
Re: Team is headed for a meltdown after a loss to New Orleans
I'm afraid that option 2 would be a disaster, like 3 or 4 interceptions. Many of us can see that McNair doesn't have it anymore, particularly if it's a shootout game. Why can't the coaches?
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10-17-2006, 04:26 PM #23
Re: Team is headed for a meltdown after a loss to New Orleans
Fassel's play calling has sucked all year and the players know it. The jump ball to Moore was the prime example of the OC not understanding when and how to call plays in the red zone.
And I agree we need to run the ball more...and I don't care who it is...Jamal, Musa or MA...just get it done. I think they all have different strengths and can all be used in certain situations.
The AFC North is wide open this year so if Billick can right the ship more power to him. IMHO I don't think he can do it, but I wish him luck.
FM
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10-17-2006, 04:37 PM #24
Re: Team is headed for a meltdown after a loss to New Orleans
I tell you what,while all these fingers are being pointed this way and that.
And all this discord is blowing up,then minds are not on football.
Billick has to earn his money during this bye week.Get the team back on track, and everyones minds in that locker room back on football.Back on the task at hand,preparing to beat the New Orleans Saints.Put the smile back on your face.This is a 60 minute ball game.
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