Goalline WR package, make it easy

**Ravenstatsman** · 05-04-2015, 03:00 PM

Originally Posted by wickedsolo

I think this thread brings up an interesting point though.

Why have the Ravens not thrown any back corner fade routes? Seems to me that is something almost every NFL team uses, yet I rarely see the Ravens employ it around the goal line.

Fades and back-shoulder throws are what I would really like to see more of this year. I feel like the back shoulder is one of Joe's best throws.

Unless you have a very good WR, back shoulder throws don't work that well. I remember we had Clarence Moore for a while but he sucked, it wouldn't have mattered if he was 6'10".

**Ravenstatsman** · 05-04-2015, 03:01 PM

Originally Posted by HbgPARavenfan

Waller probably wont be able to play 20+ snaps a game, but he can easily come in on 1st and goal from the 4 and be an instant threat

Not if he can't get off press coverage clean right at the snap. You need quickness to do so, or else the timing between the QB and WR will be disrupted.

**HoustonRaven** · 05-04-2015, 03:56 PM

Originally Posted by wickedsolo

I think this thread brings up an interesting point though.

Why have the Ravens not thrown any back corner fade routes? Seems to me that is something almost every NFL team uses, yet I rarely see the Ravens employ it around the goal line.

Fades and back-shoulder throws are what I would really like to see more of this year. I feel like the back shoulder is one of Joe's best throws.

Because we don't have the receivers skilled enough for it.

**Rxdoxx** · 05-04-2015, 04:33 PM

Originally Posted by Money227

The Bears were 3rd in the league in red zone conversion percentage (TDs) last year. I don't think that was due to Cutler. Trestman has it under control.

Oh yes it was due to Cutler! Trestman should had them 1st :respect

**PerpetuallyBored74** · 05-04-2015, 05:21 PM

Originally Posted by Ravenstatsman

Not if he can't get off press coverage clean right at the snap. You need quickness to do so, or else the timing between the QB and WR will be disrupted.

I think we now (finally) have WRs & TEs who can beat press coverage fairly cleanly. Can you see most DCs having the cojones to even try and press our (now) big, strong receiving corp down by the goal line anyway? And Campanaro/Carter both have the quickness and physicality to beat press coverage. Dare I say it, but press coverage is probably no longer our passing offense's huge, glaring achilles heel.

**Ravenswintitle** · 05-04-2015, 09:23 PM

They drafted that size for a reason. Goal line packages

**Don Frye** · 05-04-2015, 11:21 PM

Originally Posted by HoustonRaven

Because we don't have the receivers skilled enough for it.

That, and because they are probably till haunted by McNair's throw at the end of the first half in the Jan 2007 playoff game against the Colts...

Well, I know I am at least.

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**Bigfish** · 05-05-2015, 01:27 AM

1st and 1 and we're discussing throwing a pass? Who are you people?

**darb72** · 05-05-2015, 01:31 AM

Originally Posted by Bigfish

1st and 1 and we're discussing throwing a pass? Who are you people?

The collective hive-mind recently posing as Seattle's offensive coordinator.

**PerpetuallyBored74** · 05-05-2015, 06:09 PM

Originally Posted by Bigfish

1st and 1 and we're discussing throwing a pass? Who are you people?

It's smart every once in awhile to pass off of play action to either a WR who's immediately open on a pick/screen play, or to a TE who fakes/chips a block then goes out for the pass. Even a fade to one of these taller guys with long arms makes sense now.

Weapons = Options.

**Sarcasticfury** · 05-05-2015, 07:36 PM

Originally Posted by PerpetuallyBored74

It's smart every once in awhile to pass off of play action to either a WR who's immediately open on a pick/screen play, or to a TE who fakes/chips a block then goes out for the pass. Even a fade to one of these taller guys with long arms makes sense now.

Weapons = Options.

Anything but a crossing route, really.

**HbgPARavenfan** · 05-06-2015, 07:57 AM

Originally Posted by NOLARavenFAN

If you throw a slant on the goal line you through it LOW so no one except the receiver can make a play.........no way the football Gods were going to gift the Seahags two games in a row anyway.

LOL I played in a playoff game where our QB threw two back to back Pick 6's on Slant routes in the endzone, We were up 7, ended up losing by 14

Originally Posted by wickedsolo

I think this thread brings up an interesting point though.

Why have the Ravens not thrown any back corner fade routes? Seems to me that is something almost every NFL team uses, yet I rarely see the Ravens employ it around the goal line.

Fades and back-shoulder throws are what I would really like to see more of this year. I feel like the back shoulder is one of Joe's best throws.

I agree. I dont think we need to come out like the Denver Peytons and throw all three downs, but occasionally we could use our WRs in a goal line fade

Originally Posted by PerpetuallyBored74

It's smart every once in awhile to pass off of play action to either a WR who's immediately open on a pick/screen play, or to a TE who fakes/chips a block then goes out for the pass. Even a fade to one of these taller guys with long arms makes sense now.

Weapons = Options.

Totally agree. Im optimistic with trestman. I do think his style is different than what Harbs likes to do, so it will be interesting seeing how our Offense trends