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Re: Ravens sign Guy
I agree that there are pure down linemen, hybrid OLB/DE, and then pure OLBs. I prefer the middle category, and think Urban fits the model. Kruger did. So did Adalus Thomas. Jarret Johnson, really, but more lean to being a run stopper, like Upshaw.
I would like to see them get a another development guy of the hybrid breed.
If it's a pure OLB who projects vey highly, I'm okay with that too. But they haven't been as good finding these types, certainly not outside of the first round. Arthur Brown. John Simon. Sergio Kindle. Tavarus Gooden. Antwaan Barnes. Roderick Green.
You have to go back 12 years to Suggs or 18 years to Peter Boulware to find successful picks of guys who were more pure pass rushers coming out of college. If not for the fact that Suggs was the all-time NCAA single-season sacks leader when drafted, you'd say he was actually a hybrid. He certainly plays that way now. So it's really only Boulware and Dumervil who you could say have been successful in the role of pure outside rush specialists in their history.
They were all first round picks. And since I'm advocating a mid-round player to develop, I'd shy away from the specialist and go with a hybrid player they can teach to go get the QB, a la Kruger or McPhee.
But hey, if he's there at 26, and you value him more than a corner of wideout, i'm not going to cry over the selection of a pure rush end/olb
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03-19-2015, 02:57 PM #102Legendary RSR Poster
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Re: Ravens sign Guy
A numbers game and if you are down the depth chart as a LB you better be an excellent special teams player. It's why McClellan was kept ahead of him. McClellan also excels at goal line defense and Simon had yet to excel at anything in particular. Arthur Brown gets extra looks because he was more highly rated to begin with. But no special teams help and no specialized anything spell bad news if Brown can't turn it around.
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03-19-2015, 05:34 PM #105
Re: Ravens sign Guy
All we really know about Brown is that he is not as good as Mosley and Smith. But they are two of the top MLB's in the league right now. I'm not ready to assume Brown can't play just because he can't knock either of those guys out of the starting lineup. There is a solid chance that we let Smith go after this year and Brown steps in to replace him.
"Chin up, chest out."
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Re: Ravens sign Guy
Good point, and I'm usually apt to believe a player will figure things out. We're too quick to say a player, say, Dwan Edwards or Paul Kruger, for instance, is a "bust" only to be proven wrong. Although, sometime s Terrance Cody is just Terrance Cody.
The thing you worry about on Brown is that he was not only down the depth chart, he was usually inactive. That was my point about special teams. If you can't contribute in some way, it's hard to keep you on the team.
Daryl Smith is signed for three more years. Brown only two. Smith is due $3 mil for each of those three years. Brown makes under a million. So there's logic in going cheaper. Although it's not quite the rule of thumb of 80% of the talent for 20% of the cost. The issue is, if he can't see game action can they fully evaluate if he's even 80% the player.
I'd rather see him get situational snaps at OLB. I'm not sure he's big enough to play inside -- frankly I like McClellan better there. In fact, trading him to a 4-3 team to play OLB is probably the best thing that could happen to him. But that won't happen if they can't get him to show value on tape.
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Re: Ravens sign Guy
There is the Dwan Edwards/ Tony Pashos pattern
Brown will have a break-out year in 2016 and get an overpaying contract from the Chargers? Jaguars?at one point of my life I was exactly Pi years old
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