2016 Presidential Race

**darb72** · 07-23-2016, 12:53 AM

Originally Posted by Dade

Watching his speech I couldn't help but think this is how Nazi Germany started.

With a rhetoric spewing socialist who blamed a countries problems on a tiny percentage of the population?

We've had that for the last eight years.

**Dade** · 07-23-2016, 12:55 AM

Originally Posted by darb72

With a rhetoric spewing socialist who blamed a countries problems on a tiny percentage of the population?

We've had that for the last eight years.

I'm not saying we haven't had it the last eight years. But Trump is a new brand of crazy. I'm voting Gary Johnson.

**lovefootball** · 07-23-2016, 09:50 AM

Can't see how you can call out what kind of Potus Trump would be, he hasn't had a chance yet to show what he'll do. Funny how republicans would use scare tactics on the population when talking about the democrats. Now their talking it about one of their own, LMAO.

Wonder how much money contributed to the republican party in years past? Bet he was well liked back then, SMH.

**GreatWhiteNorthRaven** · 07-23-2016, 10:07 AM

Originally Posted by lovefootball

Can't see how you can call out what kind of Potus Trump would be, he hasn't had a chance yet to show what he'll do. Funny how republicans would use scare tactics on the population when talking about the democrats. Now their talking it about one of their own, LMAO.

Wonder how much money contributed to the republican party in years past? Bet he was well liked back then, SMH.

What are you talking about?

During a campaign the candidates lay out the platform for what they would do if elected. Election platforms are promises.

Trump has very clearly laid out what he plans to do. His promises determines would he would do if he became POTUS.

Jesus lovie, is this your first election!?!?

**lovefootball** · 07-23-2016, 10:10 PM

Obama ran on change and kept his promises, LMAO. Everyone of them. SMH

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/

But no one knew that would happen, just because he promised it while running for potus. Once he was elected, oh well. My point being, Trump has to get the job to see what he will do. LOL

"His promises determines would he would do if he became POTUS." HUH?

Promises mean nothing, all politicians do it, doesn't mean they will actually follow thru. Lying to voters comes with the territory. It's up to the voters whether to believe that politician.

Been voting since I was 18 years old. Really can't say I voted fo winners all the time. And have been disappointed sometimes by who was voted in , most of the time. Biggest flop in my opinion was Bush JR. Clinton had the country rolling during his time.
At this point , Trump is being called "Hitler" by some, whether that is true remains to be seen. He has to be elected to the job and then we can scrutinize his policies, SMH.

**GreatWhiteNorthRaven** · 07-23-2016, 11:58 PM

Originally Posted by lovefootball

Obama ran on change and kept his promises, LMAO. Everyone of them. SMH

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/

But no one knew that would happen, just because he promised it while running for potus. Once he was elected, oh well. My point being, Trump has to get the job to see what he will do. LOL

"His promises determines would he would do if he became POTUS." HUH?

Promises mean nothing, all politicians do it, doesn't mean they will actually follow thru. Lying to voters comes with the territory. It's up to the voters whether to believe that politician.

Been voting since I was 18 years old. Really can't say I voted fo winners all the time. And have been disappointed sometimes by who was voted in , most of the time. Biggest flop in my opinion was Bush JR. Clinton had the country rolling during his time.
At this point , Trump is being called "Hitler" by some, whether that is true remains to be seen. He has to be elected to the job and then we can scrutinize his policies, SMH.

Took that one a little too literal. The promises put forth by Obama, as displayed in the link you shared, very clearly outline his political philosophy. Yes, he didn't keep every single one of his promises, but if you go back and look at his platform you get a good sense of what he was going to do. You then look at what he did during his 4 years and see the very strong similarities.

The reality of politics is that politicians don't understand how the public service works. That's why you have central agencies to manage the political side and the public service side.

I'm not naive to believe that all promises are kept, but if you don't think his platform clearly identifies what he plans to do as POTUS then you've been out to lunch since you were 18.

Trump is being called hitler because he's making atrocious statements. Hitler didn't actually become the Chancellor of Germany until the 30's, but he was heavily criticized for his platform throughout the 20's. Which means his platform was being scrutinized before he was in power to implement his policies.

You make it sound like once someone wins an election what they actually do is radically different from their platform, which has absolutely zero truth ot it. That doesn't mean they uphold every single one of their promises in their platform, but the platform the run on and the policies they implement are extremely similar to one another.

**lovefootball** · 07-24-2016, 09:54 AM

Wow, democrats quarantining the head of the DNC? Guess those Wikileaks are damaging, LOL.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/22/politi...ils/index.html

**lovefootball** · 07-24-2016, 10:45 AM

Trump's promises, LOL. Not sure how many will come to fruition, LOL. Even his own party is wondering about some of them happening. Not seeing Hilter in any of them , though. Some of them will be costly and not really help much. But the rich will get richer, SMH.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...aign-promises/

**The Fanatic** · 07-24-2016, 11:54 AM

Originally Posted by lovefootball

Can't see how you can call out what kind of Potus Trump would be, he hasn't had a chance yet to show what he'll do. Funny how republicans would use scare tactics on the population when talking about the democrats. Now their talking it about one of their own, LMAO.

Wonder how much money contributed to the republican party in years past? Bet he was well liked back then, SMH.

This narrative of using "scare tactics" is getting old to me and quite frankly is a load of shit IMO.
IMO the only people that find this as scare tactics are those that don't bother to turn on the news, read newspapers or take the slightest bit of time to educate themselves on what is going on around them.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that a lot of the situations going on in this country and the world around us are fact...actual things that are happening that can (and are in many instances) have a huge effect on this countries well being and safety both from a financial stand point and safety stand point.

Is Trump a loose cannon that could potentially do some harm?
Certainly could be but to say he's wrong about many of the things he says IMO would just be pulling the wool over ones eyes.
The democrats would rather try and polish over many of this countries problems as well as the world problems by trying to paint a rosier picture and talk about how Trump is trying to scare the crap out of everybody.

I personally would rather be told exactly what is wrong rather then be told everything will be alright and we're on the right course.
If we're on the right course than all these problems we're facing wouldn't be happening and expanding seemingly every month.

Scare tactics my ass.....it's called reality!

**lovefootball** · 07-24-2016, 12:16 PM

Originally Posted by The Fanatic

This narrative of using "scare tactics" is getting old to me and quite frankly is a load of shit IMO.
IMO the only people that find this as scare tactics are those that don't bother to turn on the news, read newspapers or take the slightest bit of time to educate themselves on what is going on around them.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that a lot of the situations going on in this country and the world around us are fact...actual things that are happening that can (and are in many instances) have a huge effect on this countries well being and safety both from a financial stand point and safety stand point.

Is Trump a loose cannon that could potentially do some harm?
Certainly could be but to say he's wrong about many of the things he says IMO would just be pulling the wool over ones eyes.
The democrats would rather try and polish over many of this countries problems as well as the world problems by trying to paint a rosier picture and talk about how Trump is trying to scare the crap out of everybody.

I personally would rather be told exactly what is wrong rather then be told everything will be alright and we're on the right course.
If we're on the right course than all these problems we're facing wouldn't be happening and expanding seemingly every month.

Scare tactics my ass.....it's called reality!

Most likely, the older die hard republicans who depend on what the party tells them. Have a Aunt like that, pro republican as can be. Trump has appeal to the younger voters who see how much trouble the USA has had to deal with for a while now.

Obama's campaign promise of "Change" , really did nothing for the country. Nice idea of his health program, unfortunately, someone still has to pay for it, namely the working people. Under Obama's direction, the country is more divided then ever, in my opinion. But the stock market has done well, LOL. Guess who reaps those benefits? I'm getting some of it, LOL.

In elections, use to be, vote for the better of the nominees. To me, this election is vote for who less likely to ruin the USA. But as I said, neither one is president yet, we may get some surprises in the next 4 years from who ever wins . Hope they are all good ones, SMH.

**Baltravens** · 07-24-2016, 12:35 PM

Originally Posted by The Fanatic

This narrative of using "scare tactics" is getting old to me and quite frankly is a load of shit IMO.
IMO the only people that find this as scare tactics are those that don't bother to turn on the news, read newspapers or take the slightest bit of time to educate themselves on what is going on around them.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that a lot of the situations going on in this country and the world around us are fact...actual things that are happening that can (and are in many instances) have a huge effect on this countries well being and safety both from a financial stand point and safety stand point.

Is Trump a loose cannon that could potentially do some harm?
Certainly could be but to say he's wrong about many of the things he says IMO would just be pulling the wool over ones eyes.
The democrats would rather try and polish over many of this countries problems as well as the world problems by trying to paint a rosier picture and talk about how Trump is trying to scare the crap out of everybody.

I personally would rather be told exactly what is wrong rather then be told everything will be alright and we're on the right course.
If we're on the right course than all these problems we're facing wouldn't be happening and expanding seemingly every month.

Scare tactics my ass.....it's called reality!

The media is baloney. Trump is acting like a dictator and because of it will lose. If one is scared as an American, I'd be stunned. Terrorists little Pu**ys; if you want, put the bullet right between their eyes.

What I thought was MOST funny is him coming off as God saying, "I alone can fix all the problems." Trump is a showman. Wake up and see reality, all. ...He is scared to show his tax returns/finances.

**lovefootball** · 07-24-2016, 01:56 PM

Originally Posted by Baltravens

The media is baloney. Trump is acting like a dictator and because of it will lose. If one is scared as an American, I'd be stunned. Terrorists little Pu**ys; if you want, put the bullet right between their eyes.

What I thought was MOST funny is him coming off as God saying, "I alone can fix all the problems." Trump is a showman. Wake up and see reality, all. ...He is scared to show his tax returns/finances.

Interesting thoughts, but I see it as Trump standing alone with his talk. Not kowtowing to different groups of republicans. The same groups that divided their party earlier. Voters have shown their preference so far, now it's time to see which current politicians wants the republican party to have a chance to win. Cruz has made it a point, along with others to place the blame on Trump if he loses. What good that does is baffling to me.

While Trump is a showman, a wrestler, a actor , a weight lifter have also won elections too. Damn, Gopher from "Love Boat" got elected, along with Sonny Bono. LOL. Americans are a fickled group, who ever they favor has a shot to be elected. How many die hard republicans really thought Obama would get elected and then serve 2 terms, SMH. Republicans still haven't gotten over that, LMAO.

As far as tax returns, most successful business people wouldn't do it, it's nobody's business. I know owners who take 3 or more months to pay me, all millionaires at that. They want to be in complete control, one of the ways to do it. Collect that interest as long as possible.