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10-12-2007, 09:30 PM #1
Boller is Starting Sunday
I have it on good authority (from a player agent) that Boller is starting Sunday. Forget the gametime decision BS the media is floating RE: McNair.
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10-12-2007, 09:33 PM #2
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that is the best news I have heard all season, he is the best option we have right now until mcnair gets healthy again, hopefully after the bye
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10-12-2007, 09:46 PM #3Veteran Poster
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Re: Boller is Starting Sunday
Fine with me.
It's very apparent that McNair is not 100% and needs to sit down.
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10-12-2007, 10:28 PM #4Pro Bowl Poster
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10-12-2007, 10:35 PM #5Veteran Poster
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10-13-2007, 12:33 AM #6Pro Bowl Poster
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His passes look exactly how they looked last year, though. Seriously, go back and watch a game from last year, you'll see it.
I'm not a big stat guy, they don't measure everything...the whole lies, damned lies and statistics thing...but statistically he is better at this point than he was last year at this same point.
Furthermore, his throws floated and sailed high LAST year.
It's easy to forget how dreadful he was in certain games, because the team finished 13-3, but he was god awful against Oakland, Cleveland, and San Diego early on, looking a lot like he does now, and the team got away with it because of very fortunate plays by the defense, which isn't happening this year.
He had a nice drive at the end of Clev and SD last year, but he played like crap all game before that...and for the sake of apples to apples, he actually probably played better in Cleveland this year than he did last year. Remember, it took a matt stover 54 yarder to win that game.
McNair acted as a caretaker last year, which was fine because the defense was literally dominant. Now that the D doesn't dominate, they're just plain good (again, not a bad thing, but they are a step down from last year, as to be expected), you need the QB to actually make plays. McNair didn't do it early on last year, and he hasn't done it early on this year.
Seriously, though...go back and watch one of those 3 games (Browns, Chargers, Raiders) from last year and tell me he doesn't look the same... the groin thing is blown way out of proportion.
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10-13-2007, 02:32 AM #7
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If Boller routs the Rams, it could be cool to see if Troy Smith could catch a few plays in a mop-up roll.
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10-13-2007, 08:37 AM #8
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I am anxiously awaiting the return to the Ravens playbook of the medium to long pass!
While that's accurate, McNair has nonetheless declined even further this season. Last season, he did have a few completions for long gains -- Pittsburgh & KC come to mind -- while this season he has nothing but short stuff. Also, this season he already has 6 turnovers in 4 games.In a 2003 BBC poll that asked Brits to name the "Greatest American Ever", Mr. T came in fourth, behind ML King (3rd), Abe Lincoln (2nd) and Homer Simpson (1st).
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10-13-2007, 01:22 PM #9
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I'll agree that the velocity and direction (checkdowns) of his passes are pretty much the same, but his accuracy is not. He is sailing, underthrowing and late on too many of his passes. His injury may only cause him to be off on 3-7 passes, but that is still too much when you factor in other incidental offensive issues. Even the passes that he completes are affected, if he could get it there a split second faster or in a better spot the receiver might be able to do more with it after he catches it. Considering that they play a short passing game that constantly just takes what the defense allows they have to consistently continue to move the ball or they get into bad down and distance situations that the offense isn't able to convert.
Good Luck to Boller, hopefully he'll play well this week and also get the start next week. I don't want there to be a controversy with Boller and McNair, because we will need McNair at the helm for those big games down the stretch but we also need him to be healthy for those games.Last edited by skimmy; 10-13-2007 at 01:33 PM.
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10-14-2007, 08:20 AM #10
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I dont completely agree with you. I think the difference this year is when he is bad. In the redzone and at the end of the 2nd and 4th. Last year he was more of a game manager. He didn't put the defense in bad situations. Part of the reason I think our defense is only good this year.
This year he has been down right terrible. I can only think of three drives this year where he played at the "standard" level.
Going with Boller Sunday is the smart choice. McNair is not 100% and its affecting his play.
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10-13-2007, 10:14 AM #11
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I have been quite vocal in my criticism of McNair this season, he is no where near where he was last season. He was throwing the ball in the middle range (15-25 yards) a lot last year, something we rarely have seen the last few games if at all this season. No, he didn't have the zip Boller does last year or maybe ever, but he was competent in that range, he isn't at all this year.
If he gets his groin and back straightened out he will probably be capable to good again. And I bet his groin and how he was throwing to protect it is what led to his back problems. This is why he needed to sit.
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10-13-2007, 10:30 AM #12Pro Bowl Poster
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All of this is true...but not in his first 4 starts. Actually, not until after the bye week.
17/27 181 against Tampa
16/33 143 against Oakland (his long in this game, 30 yards, was a dump off to Musa).
23/41 261 against Cleveland
17/30 158 against San Diego
The next two were Carolina, which he didn't play, and Denver, which...well...I'll just leave that one out.
The point being...our passing game didn't really open up until about week 9 last year, for whatever reason. Yes, he completed long passes...against Pitt, Tennessee, and Kansas City.
No, he never really threw down field early on, though. His YPA is actually higher this year than it was at this point last season.
If you want to blame the play on a slow start, fine. I choose to blame it on the fact that he really only had 4 pretty good games all season last year, and a bunch that were just...not bad, which is all we needed.
At this point...he is what he is. As the season rolls on, he may just be what we need. Right now, it doesn't look that way...he is very limited...
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