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10-13-2007, 11:14 PM #37Pro Bowl Poster
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It's not that I refuse to admit it, it's just that he did all of those things regularly LAST year also...we just forget about them because they were so long ago, and most of the time (13 out of 17 games) we came out on top.
Let's put it this way...I didn't see anyone complaining that he wasn't "stepping in to his throws" against Arizona, yet, he was throwing the same way. No one steps in to their throws in the face of a monster pass rush.
I really think you should watch a replay or a tivoed version of the Raiders game last year (or for that matter, the Colts, Broncos, Chargers or Browns games). You will see all of the same things that you comment on now.
He throws off his back foot a lot. He holds on to the ball for a long time waiting for something to open up. He's more than willing to throw to the safety valve. When he stands back there, sometimes he does throw flat footed and sometimes he doesn't step in to his throws. It's how he was all of last year, and, to be quite honest, how he was most of his career. Problem is now, there's just a lot of throws he can't make.
And it's not because of his groin.
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10-13-2007, 11:19 PM #38Veteran Poster
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10-13-2007, 11:25 PM #39Pro Bowl Poster
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I know you argue with me a lot, but I actually think you are one of the most even headed and knowledgeable posters out here...a breath of fresh air from all the trigger happy morons who have no clue how the game or the business of NFL football works.
But I really wish that sometime you would sit down with me and watch a replay of any one of those games that I listed, you'll see, this is just how McNair is (or at least was last year).
To clarify what I meant about the Cincy game...from a turnover perspective, he played poorly, but that had nothing to do with the groin injury, IMO. He was stepping in to his throws and was as authoritative as I'd seen him (until the last INT that bounced off Mason, but that also easily could have been a reception or a plain incompletion) in a Ravens uniform. I was actually watching the game and pleasantly surprised by how he looked, because, to be honest, I expected to see him play the way he played in Clev. and San Fran, since that was how he had played most of last year.
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10-13-2007, 11:38 PM #40
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10-13-2007, 11:46 PM #41Pro Bowl Poster
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Who cares? Just because he had the turnovers doesn't mean it was a terrible game by him. Let's review the Ravens turnovers that game that were fluke-y and unlikely to happen on a normal basis:
1) Missed hand off between McGahee and McNair...hasn't happened again.
2) Rookie fullback fumbles on the next possession.
3) Ball bounces off of Mason and is intercepted. At the very worst, that's normally an incompletion or at LEAST the defender is touched down by contact 40 yards further back, which would have made a world of difference.
4) BOLLER'S pass is bounced off of Heap's chest and intercepted by a lineman.
McNair had 1 bad interception and a pretty bad fumble, but those things happen from time to time. I'm not a McNair apologist, either.
Let's put it this way, we were a bad call away from having that game go to overtime. If we won the game you wouldn't be saying it was the worst QB performance in Ravens history, which is pure idiocy when you think about some of the clowns that played QB for us...Zeier, Case, Wright, and Redman (his game in St. Louis I think takes the cake, if not Case's Thurs night game against KC).
I would go as far to say that not only was it not even close to being the worst Ravens QB performance ever, but it wasn't even McNair's worst performance AS a Raven...
Do you think Tony Romo's performance on Mon night was the worst QB performance in Cowboys history? After all, he had SIX turnovers, almost all of which lead to points for the bills.
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10-14-2007, 08:20 AM #42
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I dont completely agree with you. I think the difference this year is when he is bad. In the redzone and at the end of the 2nd and 4th. Last year he was more of a game manager. He didn't put the defense in bad situations. Part of the reason I think our defense is only good this year.
This year he has been down right terrible. I can only think of three drives this year where he played at the "standard" level.
Going with Boller Sunday is the smart choice. McNair is not 100% and its affecting his play.
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10-15-2007, 09:35 AM #43
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10-15-2007, 09:42 AM #44Pro Bowl Poster
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BTW, kudos to Camdenyard for his source, who reported that Boller would definitely start in spite of the game-time decision propaganda that the Ravens were spouting. I generally take these message board inside tips with a healthy dose of skepticism, but this source seems pretty reliable.
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