I thought this Hit by Brooks was legal...

**Bigfish** · 11-09-2014, 07:43 PM

It was a vicious hit, the NFL expands the strike zone based off of that fact.

**Jsmoove** · 11-09-2014, 07:43 PM

he led with his shoulders this is such bullshit.

**Haloti92** · 11-09-2014, 07:49 PM

Originally Posted by saintmatthew

At the game, that special teams blocked legit too. WTF was with that flag?

It is the same rule as the Brooks hit. After Golden Tate annihilated Sean Lee a couple years ago on a crack back block they added certain defenders as a "defenseless" category if they are blindsided.

**Haloti92** · 11-09-2014, 07:54 PM

Originally Posted by Jsmoove

he led with his shoulders this is such bullshit.

It doesn't matter according to the rule. The rule prohibits:

Originally Posted by rules

(1) Forcibly hitting the defenseless player's head or neck area with the helmet, facemask, forearm, or shoulder, regardless of whether the defensive player also uses his arms to tackle the defenseless player by encircling or grasping him, and

(2) Lowering the head and making forcible contact with the top/crown or forehead/"hairline" parts of the helmet against any part of the defenseless player's body.

The bottom line is you cannot hit the guy with your helmet no matter where you land the hit, and you cannot hit the guy too high no matter what you use to hit him.

**PainServer52** · 11-09-2014, 08:06 PM

I'm glad the zebras didn't flag that one because it was a legal hit even though it was brutal. I really liked what I've seen from Brooks. He can lay the wood like he did to Walker when he needs to but he also wraps up well and is a sure tackler. That was literally the best play any of our safeties have made this whole season.

**ThisGirlBleedsPurple** · 11-09-2014, 08:21 PM

Originally Posted by Ravenswintitle

When Walker went out of the game, it was huge for the Ravens. I also think it was a great hit but I guess we'll see soon enough.

Doom had a facemask on their QB that wasn't called; got lucky on that one.

That facemask was pretty blatant and I was shocked that the refs didn't see it or call it. Mettenberger was ticked and I couldn't really blame him...if that had been Flacco, we all would have been cursing the refs.

**Jsmoove** · 11-09-2014, 08:26 PM

matt elam might never see the starting defense again what a waste of 1st round pick

**Dade** · 11-09-2014, 08:38 PM

Originally Posted by Jsmoove

matt elam might never see the starting defense again what a waste of 1st round pick

He's still a young player and has potential. He's been playing out of his natural SS position a lot this year. But until he gets it together it's best to just rotate him in at this point.

**RockyMRaven** · 11-09-2014, 08:41 PM

Originally Posted by jefe96

It was legal. In fact textbook by the rules. But unfortunately the refs today are schooled to penalize anything that looks severe or something that makes the average fan say 'whoa'. So they threw the flag even though it wasn't warranted.

But IIRC, the flag was not thrown because of the hit. It was thrown because of what happened in the scuffle which followed. I'll have to go back and watch the game again, though.

**goodandfast** · 11-09-2014, 08:56 PM

Originally Posted by jefe96

It was legal. In fact textbook by the rules. But unfortunately the refs today are schooled to penalize anything that looks severe or something that makes the average fan say 'whoa'. So they threw the flag even though it wasn't warranted.

He wasn't flagged for that hit.

**goodandfast** · 11-09-2014, 08:57 PM

Originally Posted by RockyMRaven

But IIRC, the flag was not thrown because of the hit. It was thrown because of what happened in the scuffle which followed. I'll have to go back and watch the game again, though.

Correct. Washington was flagged for unsportsmanlike because he headbutted a Raven after the play in retaliation.

**Sua Sponte** · 11-09-2014, 10:13 PM

I thought it was legal and a good hit. Not to mention it makes a statement. Finally some big hits across the middle instead of everyone playing soft and allowing all of those easy catches. Will Hill layed some wood today as well. I like the Brooks Hill combo. Less Stewart and less Elam.