Suggs... Potential groin injury

**RavenMadness** · 09-21-2014, 06:16 PM

Did it come from getting too much pressure on Hoyer?

@RavensInsider: Concern about Terrell Suggs is a potential groin injury, says 'I’m going to be all right. We don’t discuss injuries.'

Sorry, I am a lil salty with our defensive woes...

**GOTA** · 09-21-2014, 06:18 PM

Originally Posted by RavenMadness

Did it come from getting too much pressure on Hoyer?

@RavensInsider: Concern about Terrell Suggs is a potential groin injury, says 'I’m going to be all right. We don’t discuss injuries.'

Sorry, I am a lil salty with our defensive woes...

It's that jump in your signature that did it ;)

**pslholder96** · 09-21-2014, 06:19 PM

I'm not too concerned only because he hasn't generated much of a pass rush through 3 games. Maybe his absence on the field will allow someone else to step up.

**RavenMadness** · 09-21-2014, 06:21 PM

Originally Posted by GOTA

It's that jump in your signature that did it ;)

Haha Gota! Be happy with the win, right? ::::sulking off::::

**SugarRay52** · 09-21-2014, 06:45 PM

Originally Posted by pslholder96

I'm not too concerned only because he hasn't generated much of a pass rush through 3 games. Maybe his absence on the field will allow someone else to step up.

Sizzle impacts the game in more ways than people give him credit for.

**SugarRay52** · 09-21-2014, 06:46 PM

Originally Posted by RavenMadness

Haha Gota! Be happy with the win, right? ::::sulking off::::

Yes with everything that's happened to this franchise yes be happy with the win, for the love of God YES YES LOL

**Ravenswintitle** · 09-21-2014, 06:59 PM

Originally Posted by SugarRay52

Sizzle impacts the game in more ways than people give him credit for.

agreed. he drew a big penalty in the first quarter, snuffed out that double reverse for a big loss. I need to watch it again to get the high points but he was disruptive

**Bhcforlife** · 09-21-2014, 07:13 PM

Suggs has not been great this year but this defense is certainly in no position to lose any of their key players right now.

**Wieters** · 09-21-2014, 08:07 PM

Suggs is playing well if you look beyond sacks.

If you insist on judging his body of work by plays on the ball, recall a couple plays today, one time making his way all the way across the field and containing a bigger play, and another time shooting through a gap to wrap-up a RB for a loss. You can reasonably believe that a player in that kind of form is difference maker, even if you don't actually see it yourself.

We needed better pressure on the quarterback today, sure, but that is not Suggs' fault; it's partly on the scheme that Pees is employing, but mostly a result of pure pass rushers being thin after the losses of Lewis-Moore and Urban. Rushing the passer is about explosiveness, which often comes from rested players coming in and making a difference. When guys on the defensive line are playing a boatload of snaps, they can't sustain the kind of effort needed to get to the quarterback.

**HoustonRaven** · 09-21-2014, 08:16 PM

Originally Posted by Wieters

Suggs is playing well if you look beyond sacks.

If you insist on judging his body of work by plays on the ball, recall a couple plays today, one time making his way all the way across the field and containing a bigger play, and another time shooting through a gap to wrap-up a RB for a loss. You can reasonably believe that a player in that kind of form is difference maker, even if you don't actually see it yourself.

We needed better pressure on the quarterback today, sure, but that is not Suggs' fault; it's partly on the scheme that Pees is employing, but mostly a result of pure pass rushers being thin after the losses of Lewis-Moore and Urban. Rushing the passer is about explosiveness, which often comes from rested players coming in and making a difference. When guys on the defensive line are playing a boatload of snaps, they can't sustain the kind of effort needed to get to the quarterback.

This

**GreatWhiteNorthRaven** · 09-22-2014, 10:19 AM

Originally Posted by Wieters

Suggs is playing well if you look beyond sacks.

If you insist on judging his body of work by plays on the ball, recall a couple plays today, one time making his way all the way across the field and containing a bigger play, and another time shooting through a gap to wrap-up a RB for a loss. You can reasonably believe that a player in that kind of form is difference maker, even if you don't actually see it yourself.

We needed better pressure on the quarterback today, sure, but that is not Suggs' fault; it's partly on the scheme that Pees is employing, but mostly a result of pure pass rushers being thin after the losses of Lewis-Moore and Urban. Rushing the passer is about explosiveness, which often comes from rested players coming in and making a difference. When guys on the defensive line are playing a boatload of snaps, they can't sustain the kind of effort needed to get to the quarterback.

I think this is the first post I've ever seen you put up, but holy shit you just hit the nail on the head. GREAT POST

This was also my issue with a guy like Ngata. He doesn't put up big stats, but he does a lot more out there than he gets credit for.

**pslholder96** · 09-22-2014, 10:28 AM

I have to disagree that scheme alone is the reason why Suggs is not getting to the QB. In obvious passing situations he still can't beat his man. You can only blame it on scheme along for so long. When was the last time he had a sack?

In any case I do agree that Pees is just not aggressive enough and schemes are pure vanilla. But that's because he's limited by the personnel he has in the back end. I wish we still had either Corey Graham and James Ihedigbo around.