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    I don't understand all the hate for Big Mac. He's lazy and can't manage his money, fine. Doesn't mean he's an immoral person who we should take pleasure in watching flounder. He wasn't a mean guy or dirty player. He helped us win a SB, and had us seriously contending for one the year before that. Clear that he's got some issues which go beyond the grid iron. I hope he manages to bounce back.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenalytics View Post
    I don't understand all the hate for Big Mac. He's lazy and can't manage his money, fine. Doesn't mean he's an immoral person who we should take pleasure in watching flounder. He wasn't a mean guy or dirty player. He helped us win a SB, and had us seriously contending for one the year before that. Clear that he's got some issues which go beyond the grid iron. I hope he manages to bounce back.
    I don't hate the guy on a personal level. Hell, I don't even know him that way. As a football player though who has made more money on one contract than I've made in my lifetime, he is the prototypical underachiever who has the talent but lacks the heart to be as good as he can be. He shows up at camp overweight and out of shape and his attitude sucks. Yes, he helped us win a SB, but he basically sat the bench the entire regular season because of his issues.
    "Screw it, let's ride"!




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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenalytics View Post
    I don't understand all the hate for Big Mac. He's lazy and can't manage his money, fine. Doesn't mean he's an immoral person who we should take pleasure in watching flounder. He wasn't a mean guy or dirty player. He helped us win a SB, and had us seriously contending for one the year before that. Clear that he's got some issues which go beyond the grid iron. I hope he manages to bounce back.
    I just don't understand this viewpoint. He comes in completely out of shape and overweight. He dogs it so bad that he sits on the bench the entire year. He plays adequately when called upon out of desperation and people just heap credit on the guy.

    It is just as accurate to say he could have caused the Ravens to miss the playoffs. Thank god Oher and Osemele stepped up and did the best they could (both playing out of position) while McKinnie parked his fat ass on the bench for a nice 16-game vacation.




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    Quote Originally Posted by JAB1985 View Post
    Mckinnies poor at money management... therefore hes a POS. Guess that makes 70% of the NFL that goes bankrupt POS too? Theres plenty of reasons to feel mckinnie is not a model citizen but I dont see how he spends his money as a reason to label him such.
    This is simply not a poor at money management issue. You could have a case if he had financial problems because an investment he made went belly up in real estate, a restaurant, Financial adviser screwed him over.
    Spending that kind of cash at a strip joint, when clearly he has other financial responsibilities he is not meeting is a clear sign he doesn't give a crap about anyone else. The POS claim has very good support.




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    Quote Originally Posted by blah3 View Post
    This is simply not a poor at money management issue. You could have a case if he had financial problems because an investment he made went belly up in real estate, a restaurant, Financial adviser screwed him over.
    Spending that kind of cash at a strip joint, when clearly he has other financial responsibilities he is not meeting is a clear sign he doesn't give a crap about anyone else. The POS claim has very good support.
    well i believe if anybody read the article it said "in the past there was a claim that he owed a strip club 300k"... as far as new information is concerned, he had a car repossessed over 21k. Hes not the first football player and he wont be the last football player that happens to and says nothing about paying his more pressing obligations.
    -JAB




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    In hindsight, I'm thankful and amazed that he pulled it together for our SB run. He was a key piece for the OL in those 4 games. Now he can't pay a $21,000.00 debt and won't get another pro contract, how long before he is collecting welfare? It's a tragedy for a great talent, but one of his own making.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigfish View Post
    In hindsight, I'm thankful and amazed that he pulled it together for our SB run. He was a key piece for the OL in those 4 games. Now he can't pay a $21,000.00 debt and won't get another pro contract, how long before he is collecting welfare? It's a tragedy for a great talent, but one of his own making.
    It's so funny how people remember things. McKinnie's play during the playoff run was very erratic. His 2nd half against the 49ers was downright horrendous.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Money227 View Post
    It's so funny how people remember things. McKinnie's play during the playoff run was very erratic. His 2nd half against the 49ers was downright horrendous.
    I think its funny how youre completely ignoring how the OL played without him leading up to those 4 games. what youre deeming erratic was still 1000x better than what we had prior and most definitely a key to Flacco being able to have the post season that he did.

    Hate McKinnie all you want (and theres plenty as a fan), but I cant diminish his impact on that team.
    -JAB




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    Quote Originally Posted by Money227 View Post
    It's so funny how people remember things. McKinnie's play during the playoff run was very erratic. His 2nd half against the 49ers was downright horrendous.
    I'm not suggesting he played great, but that line configuration worked better than they were going into the playoffs.




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    I think moving KO to guard had more of an impact to the SB run than McKinnie to LT.


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    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    I think moving KO to guard had more of an impact to the SB run than McKinnie to LT.


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    Bingo. LG was a revolving door until KO could finally play where he should have been playing all season.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigfish View Post
    I'm not suggesting he played great, but that line configuration worked better than they were going into the playoffs.
    I agree, but that's because Oher and Osemele were forced to play out of position all season and LG was a nightmare. That was all due to McKinnie's failure to be a professional.

    The fact that he finally came in and did his job adequately for the last 4 games does not make him a hero (as some paint him to be).




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    Quote Originally Posted by JAB1985 View Post
    I think its funny how youre completely ignoring how the OL played without him leading up to those 4 games. what youre deeming erratic was still 1000x better than what we had prior and most definitely a key to Flacco being able to have the post season that he did.

    Hate McKinnie all you want (and theres plenty as a fan), but I cant diminish his impact on that team.
    This. No one said he was the hero of the SB run, but he played well alongside KO for 4 of the most important games of the year. Give him credit for that.
    "Screw it, let's ride"!




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    Quote Originally Posted by lowrider View Post
    This. No one said he was the hero of the SB run, but he played well alongside KO for 4 of the most important games of the year. Give him credit for that.
    The Ravens committed to having McKinnie be their LT for the whole season. He completely let the team down. You don't give the guy credit because after 15 games he was ready to actually do his job. Here's my credit to McKinnie...he wasn't a fat, lazy SOB for the entire season, just the majority of it.

    I prefer to give the actual credit to guys like KO and Oher who were there for this team and gave their all playing out of position for most of the season. Yes, the line play was subpar during the season. I just won't blame the guys who were out there doing the best they could in a rotten situation. I'll blame the guy who should have been out there, but wasn't.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Money227 View Post
    You don't give the guy credit because after 15 games he was ready to actually do his job.
    you do when that fat lazy guy plays better than the hard worker.

    people hate it, but some guys are just better without trying than others that do. Youre suppose to field the best team on sundays regardless how that comes together. Harbaugh in this case was part of the problem by not being able to look past that. Thankfully he was able to when it mattered most (which was partly due to injury iirc).

    I dont like every player thats ever dawned a ravens jersey, but just because i dont like a player doesnt mean i cant realize his contributions are needed. so dont like him because he wasnt out there for 15 weeks, thats good enough reason, but be happy he was for those last 4.
    -JAB




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