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    Re: Who woulda "thunk": Billick OK with platooning QBs



    Quote Originally Posted by MikeinGlennDale View Post
    Who among us doesn't want to see KB succeed?
    Is that a serious question?



    Quote Originally Posted by MikeinGlennDale View Post
    In fact this new concept of having a "closer", (if that is what we are observing) is innovative and interesting.
    Agree. In our circumstance: McNair is running out of gas. Assuming that his turnovers were an aberration and that he can help the team win some games -- if his life expectancy can be stretched out over a full 16 game season via platooning, then Billick's approach should pay off. In three games, it has worked, so why not 16 games?

    In any event: if this succeeds, Billick should remember to credit me & Greg when he gets the Coach of the Year award.
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    Re: Who woulda "thunk": Billick OK with platooning QBs

    Quote Originally Posted by Mista T View Post
    Is that a serious question?
    I love the KB story. I grew up in California and KB is loved out there.

    I've railed against him in the past (rightfully so).

    Today, I like what I see (rightfully so).

    Football aside, KB is a great guy! Go get em Kyle!




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    Re: Who woulda "thunk": Billick OK with platooning QBs

    No, we don't have a QBC (quarterback controversya) yet, but I don't have to be Karnak to maybe, just maybe, see one forming on the horizon. Living in Florida means we watch little disturbances just forming very carefully. Sometimes they turn into hurricanes.

    Good. So far the season and the team both have been a little boring. There's nothing like a rip-roaring QBC to get the emotions and blood stirring. <G>
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  4. #19

    Re: Who woulda "thunk": Billick OK with platooning QBs

    Hey, whatever wins games. Overall, I am noticing an improvement w/ the offense, regardless of the QB. I think that once this O line get a few more games under their belt togeather w/ Willis the running game will be top 10 by season's end. I think that they will gel into a better pass blocking unit as well helping McNair or Boller. With Clayton on the mend, once he returns to full health and gets up to speed our offense will be significantly better by December than it is now. Look at the progress we made last year over a short span of time.

    My issue is the slippage of the Defense in the 4th quarter, if we can get that resolved. I think this team will set itself up for a DEEP playoff run....regardless of WHO they play!!!




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    Re: Who woulda "thunk": Billick OK with platooning QBs

    Quote Originally Posted by MikeinGlennDale View Post
    BB directed the team to a 13-3 season last year. He took the team to a Super Bowl.

    Perhaps it is worth considering the head coach of the Baltimore Ravens has a better idea about the squad than we do.
    Right, because Billick has such a great track record for managing quarterbacks since 1999.

    Time for another "leap of faith"?




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    Re: Who woulda "thunk": Billick OK with platooning QBs

    I think one of the reasons Billick is doing this is to give KB some reps in the event McNair becomes seriously hurt during the season. If McNair played every minute of every game and got hurt badly, KB would be stone cold.

    This way, he gets a little playing time, which builds confidence and adds to his experience level. Steve McNair is still the starter. Everyone knows it.




  7. #22

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    Steve McNair is the starter. Kyle Boller is the backup.

    Questions about what might happen "if McNair is healthy" are kind of irrelevant, because McNair is not likely going to be "healthy" again all year, not 100%.

    So it'll always be a BB judgment call, which is what it's been so far this year, and what it is on other teams too.

    This is non-news, in my opinion. It is a nice attaboy for Boller, an acknowledgment that he's performed at that high level this year, but that's it.
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  8. #23

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    Platooning isn't t he long-term solution, but it sure is reaping dividends right now. Thus, no complaints here.

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    Re: Who woulda "thunk": Billick OK with platooning QBs

    Quote Originally Posted by RAVENOUS52 View Post
    Platooning isn't t he long-term solution, but it sure is reaping dividends right now. Thus, no complaints here.
    Amen!

    I posted the message below in the PTI Topic thread but it applies here too ...

    I think my post about self loathing Ravens fans is more true now than when I first posted it.

    For those who think McNair is washed up, please go to nfl.com and see his stats and QB rating. Not his best, but certainly not "end of career" stats.

    For those hating on Boller, please go to nfl.com and see his stats and QB rating. Starting to see my point?

    We have two very good QB's -- one looking towards the future and one looking at the twilight. This is what some people call this a good problem to have. McBoller has been a good combo thus far.

    Is that really such a bad position to be in?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    Amen!

    I posted the message below in the PTI Topic thread but it applies here too ...

    I think my post about self loathing Ravens fans is more true now than when I first posted it.

    For those who think McNair is washed up, please go to nfl.com and see his stats and QB rating. Not his best, but certainly not "end of career" stats.

    For those hating on Boller, please go to nfl.com and see his stats and QB rating. Starting to see my point?

    We have two very good QB's -- one looking towards the future and one looking at the twilight. This is what some people call this a good problem to have. McBoller has been a good combo thus far.

    Is that really such a bad position to be in?


    So because people disagree that platooning QBs in the NFL is a bad idea (and very rarely successful I might add) they are self loathing?

    Do you think you've discovered something unique about this board?

    I got news for you. This is what almost every sports message board is like. It's not about self loathing.

    Really, get over it.


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    Re: Who woulda "thunk": Billick OK with platooning QBs

    Quote Originally Posted by purplepoe View Post


    So because people disagree that platooning QBs in the NFL is a bad idea (and very rarely successful I might add) they are self loathing?

    Do you think you've discovered something unique about this board?

    I got news for you. This is what almost every sports message board is like. It's not about self loathing.

    Really, get over it.


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    Rarely successful huh? And you base this on what? Just a few examples of platooning that creates a future starter (and there are more) ....

    Joe Montana / Steve Young
    Ty Detmer / Donovan McNabb
    Doug Williams / Mark Rypien (and that pains me because I hate giving the skins props at all)

    As for self-loathing ... well, since I never called you out by name but yet you responded ... that kind of speaks for itself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    Rarely successful huh? And you base this on what? Just a few examples of platooning that creates a future starter (and there are more) ....

    Joe Montana / Steve Young
    Ty Detmer / Donovan McNabb
    Doug Williams / Mark Rypien (and that pains me because I hate giving the skins props at all)

    As for self-loathing ... well, since I never called you out by name but yet you responded ... that kind of speaks for itself.
    The fact that you think Montana and Young platooned pretty much shows your knowledge of that situation.

    Your other examples weren't platooning. Detmer (and Doug Pederson) were crappy vets who the Eagles had playing in front of a rookie QB in McNabb who they didn't want to rush into action.

    Please give me an example of an NFL team that used a real platoon system (not the examples that you provided which were not platooning situations) for the majority of a season. They are few and far between and certainly didn't win anything of note.


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    I dont know how being a self loathing ravens fan became an issue or how anyone can determine that. What i do know is that platooning can be a receipe for disaster. Its simple put 2 qbs in harms way and both can get injured. I dont want this to happen.

    PP is right, there aren't any good examples of platooning qbs who won anythng.
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    Re: Who woulda "thunk": Billick OK with platooning QBs

    Quote Originally Posted by crazyraven View Post
    I dont know how being a self loathing ravens fan became an issue or how anyone can determine that. What i do know is that platooning can be a receipe for disaster. Its simple put 2 qbs in harms way and both can get injured. I dont want this to happen.

    PP is right, there aren't any good examples of platooning qbs who won anythng.
    Agreed but that wasnt my point.

    My examples are very clear and accurate examples of times when an older QB and the young upstart QB shared time for a while with the hopes that one day the younger QB takes over.

    Im NOT saying Boller will become a McNabb, Young or Montana. McNair was brought here to win games, but I guarantee BB has told McNair he will be Boller's mentor. Remember, BB put a LOT of time and energy into Boller. BB has a huge ego and NEEDS Boller to succeed.

    I AM saying that "raising" a young QB by platooning does work and has a track record of success. A lot on the boards are saying it doesnt work but have yet to provide examples of how it didnt work.

    I agree that platooning is not the best way to go. BUT, since we're doing it and we're 2-0 while doing it, why not play it out and see where it goes?

    If BB blows it, I will be the first one to say so.

    As for the self-loathing fans, they speak for themselves and you are most definitely NOT one of them. You speak with facts along with your passion. The SLF's speak with only emotion and its 99.9% negative about the team they supposidly love.
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    Stinky, I think McNair was told he was being brought here to win games. I am pretty sure I recall public statements to that effect at the time.

    Undoubtedly it was *understood* that Boller would be able to learn from McNair, but I do not think McNair was told he was coming here to teach. That would have been insulting to someone who might feel he's perfectly capable of playing for a few more years.

    Pardon me for quibbling, but it's a slow day at work.
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