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    Re: 48th Overall Pick: Tim Jernigan



    Quote Originally Posted by Lord_Calvert View Post
    I just watched the tape on him from the Pitt game. Granted this is an extremely small sample size but he was getting HANDLED. He is really slow coming off the snap without much leverage. It seemed every play as he would stand up from his 3 point stance he would engage the blocker, then have take a step back to get his feet under him for leverage before being able to push the lineman or try to get off the block.

    This doesn't bode well projecting forward to the NFL. He really needs to work on his technique, and strength. I would be surprised if he was anything more than a space filler this upcoming year against the run, anything past that will depend on him and how motivated he is to get better. Otherwise I see a Cody in better shape.
    http://draftbreakdown.com/players/timmy-jernigan/

    watched 6 condensed on that site, came away with very similar feelings.

    Pitt(2013)- Mo motor issues in this game, worked hard on 90% of the snaps shown. Interestingly enough, he seemed to make a much larger contribution in the pass game in this one. IF Pitt could have kept the lead, it looks to me like they would have run all over F ST that day... LOS was immediately pushed into FSU territory on the early run downs, with Jernigan seeming quite ineffective stacking and shedding to be honest.

    BC(2013)- Great game to watch, NFL caliber Oline coaching, tough blue collar players manning the positions.
    Jernigan is playing WAY TOO HIGH... We will see if the trend continues, but at this moment, I'm not seeing an NFL NT, but I am seeing more activity and movement, and thinking the 5 technique is the better spot for him. Looks more like Dwan Edwards and Art Jones then Kelly Gregg or Casey Hampton to me. Still, at this moment, looks like his best place is on a 4 man line next to an Aaron Donald type 1 gap attack dog...

    MIA (2103)- This guy plays with NO Leverage. This ain't Kelly Gregg. He is showing some ability to shed the MIA interior line after he gets pushed back. That is an improvement from the past two games. Appeared to run out of gas right before half, in the hurry up, typical for a 300 pound man.

    SYR(2013) - So far, and this is a pattern.... with the spot shadowing and all... it's Jersey #20(Lamarcus Joyner) jumping off the screen to me. Jernigan still playing high, bending and reaching,and in general losing the leverage battle with most of the linemen he faces. Showed some good stacking and shedding once again, yet certainly took some plays off, particularly late in the first half, half stepping it so to speak.

    Clem(2013) - Blown off the ball consistently when double teamed, yet almost as consistently shedding and knifing through when singled up. Again the patter continues, Joyner and Brooks leap off the screen, this guy is just there, despite being spot shadowed before each play. He is at best the 3rd best player on this defense. I'm also starting to think we should have selected the diminutive Joyner over brooks for our FS spot. Dude flat out BALLS!!!

    FLO (2013)- Uses hands well, good upper body strength. otherwise, more of the same thoughts.

    Ok, I think that is enough...

    In summary- IMO, I was spot on that he is not a 3-4 NT. Leverage is poor, loses BADLY to double teams in the run game consistently. Upper body strength is good, lower body strength seems average at best. Sets up too high, too often, extends beyond his base. Much better when knifing through single teams in either the pass game or run game. I think he was greatly benefited from playing NT for a team that consistently had the lead. Contrary to popular scout's impressions, I am more impressed with what he does in the passing game.

    So while I came out of this with virtually the same opinion of Jernigan at the nose, and of his best schematic fit(4-3 NT) I did gain a bit of hope that he has what it takes to be a 5 tech that slots between Dwan Edwards and Art Jones. Still a very luke warm opinion of this pick. At best the 3rd best defensive player on his team, and while we did draft one of the ones that appears better on film, we skipped, IMO the best, even though he was drafted last.




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    Jernigan looks very similar to Art Jones actually. Seems like they took him to replace Jones.




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    Re: 48th Overall Pick: Tim Jernigan

    Quote Originally Posted by leachisabeast View Post
    Jernigan looks very similar to Art Jones actually. Seems like they took him to replace Jones.
    In a 3-4 that's really the only place he can effectively play, at least that what it looks like from his college performance. The Ravens play enough 4 man fronts with extra DBs that he should see his fair share of 3 technique as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GOTA View Post

    In a 3-4 that's really the only place he can effectively play, at least that what it looks like from his college performance. The Ravens play enough 4 man fronts with extra DBs that he should see his fair share of 3 technique as well.
    I think the Ravens play about 60-70 % of their snaps in the nickel defense these days, so yeah... Against teams like the Pats they play almost exclusively in the nickel.




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    Re: 48th Overall Pick: Tim Jernigan

    Yea he's not going to be a 3-4 NT. I don't know why anyone would have even seen him as a NT for this team. Brandon Williams is that guy. Jernigan will be a 5-tech in this scheme who will be playing 1-tech in nickel situations. If his technique issues are sured up he should be a really good player.




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    Re: 48th Overall Pick: Tim Jernigan

    Allegedly the Ravens had a first round grade on him. Nice article: http://www.baltimoreravens.com/news/...0&media-type=N
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    Re: 48th Overall Pick: Tim Jernigan

    So does anyone think Jernigan and the other dudes that failed the drug test will be suspended to start the season? Damn, we could start off having Rice and Jernigan suspended. Not good.




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    Re: 48th Overall Pick: Tim Jernigan

    Quote Originally Posted by AirFlacco View Post
    So does anyone think Jernigan and the other dudes that failed the drug test will be suspended to start the season? Damn, we could start off having Rice and Jernigan suspended. Not good.
    No. Even if a diluted test is counted as a strike in the three strike system, this can only be his first. Relax Trap, you're just looking for something to bitch about.

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    Re: 48th Overall Pick: Tim Jernigan

    Thanks for the first part little pal, and bull shit on the other part.




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    Re: 48th Overall Pick: Tim Jernigan

    Quote Originally Posted by AirFlacco View Post
    So does anyone think Jernigan and the other dudes that failed the drug test will be suspended to start the season?
    To be suspended according to the CBA, a player has to be in Stage Two. These failed tests don't even put a player into Stage One. Josh Gordon is in Stage Three - that's why he can be suspended for a year.




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    Re: 48th Overall Pick: Tim Jernigan

    Thanks, I just read that but it also said that many stars in the NFL smoke weed ala Josh Gordon (Deonte Thompson of Ravens who isn't even a star) and so do the players at the combines.

    I also read that Dallas had targeted Jernigan. Did he drop because of the failed test?




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    Re: 48th Overall Pick: Tim Jernigan

    More Information:

    The first positive test for a "substance of abuse" results in the player formally entering an enhanced testing/treatment program, where the player is tested more frequently.

    A second positive test results in the player entering the "stages of intervention" outlined in the policy. "Stage 1" is the first stage in the policy and includes the player being referred to a "Regional Team" for his treatment. In Stage 1, the player can be tested as many times as the league's "Medical Director" desires to "adequately evaluate the player."

    A positive test while in Stage 1 can result in a fine equal to three weeks of a player's pay and results in entrance to Stage 2.

    A player remains under Stage 1 guidelines for 90 days, but the league's Medical Director can extend that time up to six months.

    In Stage 2, players are subject to unannounced testing up to 10 times a month. A positive test while in Stage 2 or failure to comply with the treatment program results in a fine equal to four game checks and a four-game suspension.

    Six-game suspensions are also possible in Stage 2.

    Players can appeal the fine and suspension within five business days of receiving the "notice of discipline."

    Players remain in Stage 2 for two full seasons or 24 consecutive months, whichever is shorter.

    Players move to Stage 3 if they have two positive tests when in Stage 2 or one positive test to go with one instance when the player failed to comply with the program.

    Players who are placed into Stage 3 remain in Stage 3 for the remainder of their careers.

    The minimum suspension for a violation in Stage 3 is a calendar year.

    http://www.denverpost.com/ci_2371127...drugs-policies




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    Re: 48th Overall Pick: Tim Jernigan

    Great info. I never paid much attention to that part of the game




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    Re: 48th Overall Pick: Tim Jernigan

    Quote Originally Posted by Justlovemybirds View Post


    Rofl, nice judo skills Timmy! I wonder if he got flagged for that play.




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