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    Re: Manziel comes to the AFC North



    I wonder if our home opener vs Manziel will be on national TV now.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker: M&T Sec 527 View Post
    Unless he learns to stay in the pocket, NO DOUBT! He won't be able to do what he did best in college for Grieveland. His learning curve will be slow, even w/o injuries.

    Now Cincy taking Dennard is going to make trouble for us before too long.
    This is my greatest concern as well.




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    Re: Manziel comes to the AFC North

    I get that getting the extra first rounder next year is nice.

    Watkins though IMO is a guy who is an absolute stud. I think he will be an elite receiver in the NFL. They should have taken him there IMO. You dont get many opportunities to draft a guy like that.

    They still could easily have moved up to take Manziel. Difference is that JFF would have a decent crew of receivers to throw to.
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    Only thing going for him is that they have gordon. So he can continue to focus in on one guy then run around until he gets open or himself gets crushed. Factory of sadness continues business as usual in my opinion. 3 top defenses just started salivating.
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    The dennard pick is scariest to me. I think shazier was way early. Decent player but at 15 youre expecting an immediate impact and I dont think hes that player. They would have been better with dennard as well.
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    Shannahan's offense got RGIII killed in less than 1 season and he is, or was waster than JF and has a better arm. Maybe his a good fit, but it's the Browns. I have more faith in the Browns sucking than I do in Manzeil's talent.




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    Re: Manziel comes to the AFC North

    I heard during the week that 20 personnel people were asked about Manziel. 12 thought he would be a complete bust. 8 thought he could be great. No one was on the fence. Everyone is going to be in one camp or another with this guy. I'm firmly in the bust camp which is why I'm thrilled he went to the Browns but I can understand someone who takes the other side of that bet.
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    Re: Manziel comes to the AFC North

    Quote Originally Posted by Ravens Fan View Post
    I wonder if our home opener vs Manziel will be on national TV now.
    Unless he's traded to the Bungles between now and September, I doubt it!

    Why does everyone seem to be thinking we open against Cleveland instead of Cinci, when it's week 3 we play them, and on the road?
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    Unless he's traded to the Bungles between now and September, I doubt it!

    Why does everyone seem to be thinking we open against Cleveland instead of Cinci, when it's week 3 we play them, and on the road?
    Yeah.. I wondered that last night too.. Although one of the guys on NFLN (I think) said he opened against "The Ravens". Knew that was wrong.




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    Re: Manziel comes to the AFC North

    If Im buying into the hype so be it but I think this dude will be a thorn in our side for a while. As its already been said he couldn't have walked into a better situation with Thomas and Mack etc. protecting him and Gordon catching everything his way and Shanahan drawing up the plays. I almost forgot they have Tate now too to keep things honest.

    And now Lee or Robinson or Matthews will probably fall right in their laps at 35 giving him even more help. They may have snubbed Watkins but none of these guys are slouches either. I cant believe Im saying this but the Browns may really and truly be changing the course of their franchise with this draft.
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    Re: Manziel comes to the AFC North

    Exactly what I was going to say. How did the Shanahans keep RG3 healthy? I don't think he will last the season. He is a run first QB.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raven Werewolf View Post
    If Im buying into the hype so be it but I think this dude will be a thorn in our side for a while. As its already been said he couldn't have walked into a better situation with Thomas and Mack etc. protecting him and Gordon catching everything his way and Shanahan drawing up the plays. I almost forgot they have Tate now too to keep things honest.

    And now Lee or Robinson or Matthews will probably fall right in their laps at 35 giving him even more help. They may have snubbed Watkins but none of these guys are slouches either. I cant believe Im saying this but the Browns may really and truly be changing the course of their franchise with this draft.
    theyll be talented but I dont think it even matters if they add another WR. Hes only going to focus on his first read. Hes not good at going through progressions without scrambling and I dont see that working in his favor in the AFCN because hes not Ben Roethlisberger thats too big to bring down.

    obviously thats something he can learn as he matures but i think looking back at run first QBs its a very small number that get over it and become good passers that distribute the ball well.
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    Re: Manziel comes to the AFC North

    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenblue View Post
    Unless he's traded to the Bungles between now and September, I doubt it!

    Why does everyone seem to be thinking we open against Cleveland instead of Cinci, when it's week 3 we play them, and on the road?
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    Re: Manziel comes to the AFC North

    Quote Originally Posted by GOTA View Post
    I heard during the week that 20 personnel people were asked about Manziel. 12 thought he would be a complete bust. 8 thought he could be great. No one was on the fence. Everyone is going to be in one camp or another with this guy. I'm firmly in the bust camp which is why I'm thrilled he went to the Browns but I can understand someone who takes the other side of that bet.
    That seems to be the way it is with fans too. Everyone seems so sure he's either going to be a bust or great.

    I'm going to say that he has only played 2 years in college - one he won the Heisman and passed for over 3,700 yds. The second, he passed for over 4,000 yards. His completion rate was almost 70% both years.
    I saw him beat #1 Bama and throw for almost 400 in that game. The kid's got talent, a better arm than most think and he's super competitive. But I don't pretend to be able to say for sure how that will project in the NFL.
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    Re: Manziel comes to the AFC North

    I can't forget that RG3, most likely a better player in the same style as Manziel, was severely injured his first season trying to run all over the field under Shanahan's offense.

    And I can't forget which team it was that injured him.




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