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    Re: Would the NFL Ban an Owner for Life?



    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    If you're still on the fence as to whether the owners will vote out Sterling, go watch the interview he gave to Anderson Cooper.

    Yikes.
    I saw the interview. He definitely has issues, there's no question. However, if there is any hesitation for the owners it's not about Sterling or what he said as far as the vote goes, it's really about setting a precedent that they will have to live with in the future.

    I do think they will vote him out because they really have no other choice.The national media would crucify Silver and the owners if they don't. I honestly think the owners are in an uncomfortable situation.
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    Re: Would the NFL Ban an Owner for Life?

    Sterling is refusing all fines and sanctions, per ESPN.
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    Re: Would the NFL Ban an Owner for Life?

    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    Sterling is refusing all fines and sanctions, per ESPN.
    And so it begins.




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    "Screw it, let's ride"!




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    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    Sterling is refusing all fines and sanctions, per ESPN.
    Hired a famed anti-trust lawyer.

    I thought you guys said this had nothing to do with anti-trust?




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    Quote Originally Posted by jonboy79 View Post
    Hired a famed anti-trust lawyer.

    I thought you guys said this had nothing to do with anti-trust?
    It doesn't seem to, but doesn't mean he won't try. It seems to be his only hope, that and or the owners not voting him out.
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    Hired a famed anti-trust lawyer. I thought you guys said this had nothing to do with anti-trust?
    You can file anything on anything. You can hire a lawyer on anything. Doesn't mean a court will hear it.

    My position is that his only recourse is to claim that the nba did not/will not follow its own agreements and processes. If they do, it is clear that it ends. If they do not, it may still end with arbitration but may go to a court. The only thing the court could rule on is if the nba followed the agreement they made with Stirling when he bought the team and any ensuing agreements.




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    Another thing I heard last night was that during the divorce proceedings between Donald and Cindy that the team would be caught up in the division of assets and unable to be sold until the divorce was final, is that correct as well?

    I will repeat again, if Donald Sterling can simply draw this out until next season, he has already won. I still contend that he will end up selling a week or two before the season for well over market value.




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    Quote Originally Posted by jonboy79 View Post
    Hired a famed anti-trust lawyer.

    I thought you guys said this had nothing to do with anti-trust?
    On the surface it would appear that anti-trust does not apply, but if he can prove that Silver and the owners colluded to force him to sell his business, then he can invoke anti-trust law and force the courts to settle this thing. Or at least that's the way I understand it. If you read the article his attorney is saying that Sterling's "due process rights" were violated, and that he did NOT violate any of the provisions of article 13. So they are going to force the courts to determine whether or not there was collusion and also to interpret the language and intent of article 13. I still think his chances of winning are near impossible, but it appears he is not going to go down without a fight.

    In the letter, Blecher argues that Sterling's "due process rights" were violated when he was permanently banned after a mere four-day investigation. Blecher also says Sterling has not violated any article of the NBA constitution, Sports Illustrated reported.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyD79 View Post
    You can file anything on anything. You can hire a lawyer on anything. Doesn't mean a court will hear it.

    My position is that his only recourse is to claim that the nba did not/will not follow its own agreements and processes. If they do, it is clear that it ends. If they do not, it may still end with arbitration but may go to a court. The only thing the court could rule on is if the nba followed the agreement they made with Stirling when he bought the team and any ensuing agreements.


    He's throwing anything against the wall to see if it will stick.
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    Sterling has a lot of money, he's not going to just roll over and die. Well, if it plays out for a long time , it may happen. Sterling needs to hire Mike Sams as a PR guy, that ought to help him out with his battling the nba.. LOL I hope he wins, since when is it racist to say the word black when describing people? To me, with Johnson being in a picture Sterling talked about and then Johnson claiming that Sterling has to go, something smells funny about that. Set up maybe?




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    Quote Originally Posted by lovefootball View Post
    Sterling has a lot of money, he's not going to just roll over and die. Well, if it plays out for a long time , it may happen. Sterling needs to hire Mike Sams as a PR guy, that ought to help him out with his battling the nba.. LOL I hope he wins, since when is it racist to say the word black when describing people? To me, with Johnson being in a picture Sterling talked about and then Johnson claiming that Sterling has to go, something smells funny about that. Set up maybe?
    The issue was Sterling saying on the call, I don't want you hanging around Magic cause he's black. That's not verbatim but it's the jist of what he said.

    In a normal situation I don't think anyone should lose something they own because they're racist, sexist or whatever. But he signed an agreement that if his actions hurt the league they can him force out. He did and they will.
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    [QUOTE=NCRAVEN;783288]The issue was Sterling saying on the call, I don't want you hanging around Magic cause he's black. That's not verbatim but it's the jist of what he said.

    Still think he has that right to free speech. Can't see how it hurts the nba by saying Johnson is black. Does he get banned for saying , don't hang with larry bird because he's white. Personally, I think the lynch mob moved too fast in saying Sterling has to go. They seemed to want to bring out the race card using that conversation as a means to get rid of Sterling. Still think, in the end, Sterling is banned, but fights the nba with all the money he has. If he wins the case, does he go after those that wanted him gone, when they called him a racist. Would that be a slander suit?




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    Re: Would the NFL Ban an Owner for Life?

    Quote Originally Posted by lovefootball View Post
    Still think he has that right to free speech. Can't see how it hurts the nba by saying Johnson is black. Does he get banned for saying , don't hang with larry bird because he's white. Personally, I think the lynch mob moved too fast in saying Sterling has to go. They seemed to want to bring out the race card using that conversation as a means to get rid of Sterling. Still think, in the end, Sterling is banned, but fights the nba with all the money he has. If he wins the case, does he go after those that wanted him gone, when they called him a racist. Would that be a slander suit?
    No one is saying he doesn't have a right to say it. He can say whatever he wants, but he also has to suffer the consequences, in this case it's him being voted out because in a league of 80% + of the players are black, they don't want to play under a guy who doesn't want his girlfriend hanging around someone cause they're black.

    That, and fans want him gone because of that. So in the end he's hurting the league, and as a result he's very likely going to be voted out. If the league does that and he appeals (this is where my knowledge gets shaky) it goes to arbitration and that arbitrator will decide if he was the league was justified or not.
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    Free speech does not equal freedom from the consequences of your speech.
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