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    Draft: Alabama (Saban) players since 2009



    2009
    Rd Pick
    1 6 Andre Smith Offensive tackle Cincinnati Bengals
    3 10 Glen Coffee Running back San Francisco 49ers
    3 13 Antoine Caldwell Center Houston Texans
    3 31 Rashad Johnson Defensive back Arizona Cardinals

    2010
    Rd Pick
    1 8 Rolando McClain Linebacker Oakland Raiders
    1 20 Kareem Jackson Cornerback Houston Texans
    2 18 Javier Arenas Defensive back Kansas City Chiefs
    2 25 Terrence Cody Defensive end Baltimore Ravens
    3 34 Mike Johnson Offensive guard Atlanta Falcons
    7 4 Marquis Johnson Defensive back St. Louis Rams
    7 40 Brandon Deaderick Defensive end New England Patriots

    2011
    Rd Pick
    1 3 Marcell Dareus* Defensive tackle Buffalo Bills
    1 6 Julio Jones* Wide receiver Atlanta Falcons
    1 25 James Carpenter Offensive tackle Seattle Seahawks
    1 28 Mark Ingram Running back New Orleans Saints
    7 5 Greg McElroy Quarterback New York Jets

    2012
    Rd Pick
    1 3 Trent Richardson Running back Cleveland Browns
    1 7 Mark Barron Safety Tampa Bay Buccaneers
    1 17 Dre Kirkpatrick Cornerback Cincinnati Bengals
    1 25 Dont'a Hightower Linebacker New England Patriots
    2 3 Courtney Upshaw Linebacker Baltimore Ravens
    5 1 Josh Chapman Defensive tackle Indianapolis Colts
    5 11 DeQuan Menzie Cornerback Kansas City Chiefs
    7 40 Brad Smelley Tight end Cleveland Browns

    2013
    Rd Pick
    1 9 Dee Milliner Cornerback New York Jets
    1 10 Chance Warmack Guard Tennessee Titans
    1 11 D. J. Fluker Offensive tackle San Diego Chargers
    2 29 Eddie Lacy* Running back Green Bay Packers
    4 2 Nico Johnson Linebacker Kansas City Chiefs
    4 16 Barrett Jones Center St. Louis Rams
    5 4 Jesse Williams Defensive tackle Seattle Seahawks
    5 24 Quinton Dial Defensive end San Francisco 49ers
    7 5 Michael Williams Tight end Detroit Lions




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    Re: Draft: Alabama (Saban) players since 2009

    I see a lot of high picks that have not really made a name for themselves in the NFL (or if they have it isn't a good name).

    This is why HaHa and Mosley scare me to death in Rd. 1 (or 2 for Mosley).

    Plus I saw this earlier (Rotoworld):

    ESPN Boston expects the Patriots to remove OLB Dont'a Hightower in all sub-packages this season.
    Hightower was one of the worst cover linebackers in the league last year, so the Patriots are limiting him to more of a two-down role. Jamie Collins projects to get the majority of snaps opposite Jerod Mayo in nickel packages.


    Another Alabama underachiever.

    We wanted Hightower so bad too.




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    Re: Draft: Alabama (Saban) players since 2009

    14 First round picks.

    How many have performed like First Round talent in the NFL?

    3?


    The 2013 class looks to be the best. Still too early to tell for some of these guys.

    Maybe I am skewed because Cody and Upshaw have not exactly set the world on fire. Cody is lucky to have a job.

    But we see guys like Hightower doing nothing much. Ingram and Richardson really haven't done much.




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    Re: Draft: Alabama (Saban) players since 2009

    Now compare some of the talent that came from FLorida in the same time frame:
    Percy Harvin
    Aaron Hernandez
    Brandon SPikes
    Maurkice Pouncey
    Joe Haden
    Mike Pouncey
    Shariff Floyd
    Jordan Reed

    This list to me seems far superior to the Alabama players in terms of actual NFL talent.

    Alabama players scare the hell out of me.




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    Re: Draft: Alabama (Saban) players since 2009

    Quote Originally Posted by bt12483 View Post
    14 First round picks.

    How many have performed like First Round talent in the NFL?

    3?


    The 2013 class looks to be the best. Still too early to tell for some of these guys.

    Maybe I am skewed because Cody and Upshaw have not exactly set the world on fire. Cody is lucky to have a job.

    But we see guys like Hightower doing nothing much. Ingram and Richardson really haven't done much.
    Hightower was the guy most of us wanted the most in that draft. Bellicheat got him and we were pissed and ended up with Upshaw.

    Looks like neither did much which is why I don't want anyone from Alabama. Nick wears them all out before they get to the NFL.
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    Re: Draft: Alabama (Saban) players since 2009

    Quote Originally Posted by AirFlacco View Post
    Hightower was the guy most of us wanted the most in that draft. Bellicheat got him and we were pissed and ended up with Upshaw.

    Looks like neither did much which is why I don't want anyone from Alabama. Nick wears them all out before they get to the NFL.
    There may be some legitimate truth to that.


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    Re: Draft: Alabama (Saban) players since 2009

    I did a check on Miami, we have had 13 Hurricanes, currently none

    Vinny Testaverde
    Willis McGahee
    Damien Berry
    Tommy Streeter
    Leon Searcy
    Kipp Vickers
    Bryant McKinnie
    Ray Lewis
    Tavares Gooden
    Spencer Adkins
    Robert Bailey
    Duane Starks
    Ed Reed


    Miami did have 4 pro-bowlers last year Antrel Rolle, Jimmy Graham, Andre Johnson, Frank Gore
    And in 2012 6, Ed Reed, Reggie Wayne, Andre Johnson, Vince Wilfork, Frank Gore, Chris Myers
    And for 11 and 10 add names Ray Lewis, McGahee, Vilma, Beason, Devin Hester, Meriweather

    There is an article by SI last September on most college players on NFL opening day rosters
    http://college-football.si.com/2013/...d-nfl-rosters/
    1. USC 40 players
    2. LSU 39
    3. Miami 38
    4. Georgia 36
    5. Florida State 31
    5. Texas 31
    7. Alabama 30
    7. Cal 30
    7. Tennessee 30
    10. Ohio State 27
    10. Oregon 27
    12. Florida 26
    They go on to talk about Alabama but are amazed that Tennessee and Cal both had 30
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    Re: Draft: Alabama (Saban) players since 2009

    Just to give some love to Alabama, though lord knows why I would want to do that, I give you Robert Lester, the UDFA and starting strong safety for Carolina last year. Opposing QB's had a 49.6 rating when throwing his way.




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    Quote Originally Posted by AirFlacco View Post
    Hightower was the guy most of us wanted the most in that draft. Bellicheat got him and we were pissed and ended up with Upshaw.

    Looks like neither did much which is why I don't want anyone from Alabama. Nick wears them all out before they get to the NFL.

    I personally did not want either Upshaw or Hightower. Mainly because I do not want to see the Ravens ever use a first rounder or early 2nd rounder on an ILB or an OLB that can't rush the passer. Similar thought on taking RB in the first two rounds. Those type of players can be had in the 3 - 7 range.

    I also am not a fan of picking Alabama players early. Saban beats the snot out of his players in practice. They all come in with a lot of mileage on their bodies. The other issue is that is really hard to determine how good a player is because they have so much talent across the board that it may cover up some deficiencies that would be exposed on a less talented team.




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    Re: Draft: Alabama (Saban) players since 2009

    Hightower should have never been depended on to cover anyway, it's no where near his strength and it's why I had no problem passing over him in the first.

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    Re: Draft: Alabama (Saban) players since 2009

    First of all, I don't think it's fair to evaluate anyone from the 2011 draft on. You have to give them four years to prove their worth. From those years, 2011 doesn't look bad right now, 2012 looks awful but you have to give them a couple years, and I'd say 2013 looks promising. The three first round picks all showed promise.

    Also, I think you have to also realize how much of a crapshoot the draft really is. By looking at the 2006-2010 drafts I'd say 25-50% of first round picks live up to their billing depending on the draft year.




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    Re: Draft: Alabama (Saban) players since 2009

    I'm guessing the * is underclassman leaving early?
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