Lardarius Webb at Free Safety??

**leachisabeast** · 03-20-2014, 10:25 AM

Originally Posted by Paintballguy

I swear I'm in the movie Groundhog Day sometimes...

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Great movie, but bad for us when you're relating to it on a forum haha

**HotInHere** · 03-20-2014, 10:35 AM

I can't believe this thread is onto four pages, and I'm adding to it.

Look at it this way: let's say tomorrow the Ravens release Lardarius Webb. How long do you think he would sit on the FA market? And do you think the team that signed him would sign him to be one of their starting CB's (and pay him accordingly) or sign him to play FS?

Dude is a CB. Could he maybe make that end-of-career switch and milk a couple years out of playing FS when he's 34. MAYBE. But he's 29, and he's a CB, and a damn good one.

It's much easier to find a FS. It's also much easier to compensate schematically for a below-average FS than a below-average CB. That's why they make less.

**HoustonRaven** · 03-20-2014, 10:38 AM

**HbgPARavenfan** · 03-20-2014, 10:54 AM

Originally Posted by HotInHere

I can't believe this thread is onto four pages, and I'm adding to it.

Look at it this way: let's say tomorrow the Ravens release Lardarius Webb. How long do you think he would sit on the FA market? And do you think the team that signed him would sign him to be one of their starting CB's (and pay him accordingly) or sign him to play FS?

Dude is a CB. Could he maybe make that end-of-career switch and milk a couple years out of playing FS when he's 34. MAYBE. But he's 29, and he's a CB, and a damn good one.

It's much easier to find a FS. It's also much easier to compensate schematically for a below-average FS than a below-average CB. That's why they make less.

Hes not that good anymore hes knees have killed him. I just dont understand why ppl would be opposed for him to play safety for one year until we draft or find a real safety (IF there are no other options) His salary would have no baring on a one year at safety.

The comments about his salary are what make no sense, he would be a stop gap until we found a real S. if you dont think he can play S, than thats a totally different argument.

**Greg** · 03-20-2014, 11:01 AM

It is easier and cheaper to sign/draft a FS than it is to replace a guy like Webb who is one of our starting CBs.

**Money227** · 03-20-2014, 11:02 AM

Originally Posted by alien bird

In the short term, I agree. In the bigger picture, it's problematic.

I would (of course) be thrilled if he returned to his stellar CB play of 2011, but I have my doubts that he is even physically capable of that. If he doesn't, his contract is problematic no matter where he's lining up on the field.

**lowrider** · 03-20-2014, 11:55 AM

Originally Posted by Money227

I would (of course) be thrilled if he returned to his stellar CB play of 2011, but I have my doubts that he is even physically capable of that. If he doesn't, his contract is problematic no matter where he's lining up on the field.

This is exactly where I'm at with this thing. Webb has not YET returned to the PB corner he was prior to the knee injury. could he this year? Maybe, maybe not. They used him mostly covering the slot receiver last year. Your best corners are always on the outside covering the speed receivers. So in a sense, he was overpaid last year and I heard no one bitching about it then. Again, his next contract will be in accordance to his skills, position, age, etc. But for now if he fills a need at FS I don't think it would be a stupid idea, regardless of his current salary.

**HbgPARavenfan** · 03-20-2014, 12:22 PM

Originally Posted by lowrider

This is exactly where I'm at with this thing. Webb has not YET returned to the PB corner he was prior to the knee injury. could he this year? Maybe, maybe not. They used him mostly covering the slot receiver last year. Your best corners are always on the outside covering the speed receivers. So in a sense, he was overpaid last year and I heard no one bitching about it then. Again, his next contract will be in accordance to his skills, position, age, etc. But for now if he fills a need at FS I don't think it would be a stupid idea, regardless of his current salary.

but around here it doesnt matter, the salary is just toooooo much to have him go from playing nickel b.c he cant play against #1 or #2 WR..... so clearly we would rather pay him to stay at corner and only play 65% of snaps vs 100% at Safety

his ability to play safety is completely irrelevant around here, all that matters is salary, allegedly

**alien bird** · 03-20-2014, 12:24 PM

Originally Posted by HbgPARavenfan

but around here it doesnt matter, the salary is just toooooo much to have him go from playing nickel b.c he cant play against #1 or #2 WR..... so clearly we would rather pay him to stay at corner and only play 65% of snaps vs 100% at Safety

his ability to play safety is completely irrelevant around here, all that matters is salary, allegedly

Well, there's a hyperbolic misrepresentation of what most posters are saying.:grbac:

**HoustonRaven** · 03-20-2014, 12:24 PM

Originally Posted by HbgPARavenfan

but around here it doesnt matter, the salary is just toooooo much to have him go from playing nickel b.c he cant play against #1 or #2 WR..... so clearly we would rather pay him to stay at corner and only play 65% of snaps vs 100% at Safety

his ability to play safety is completely irrelevant around here, all that matters is salary, allegedly

Considering there's more than one post in this thread that talks about reasons other than salary, the point of this post escapes me.

Or did you simply not read those posts?

**Ravens Fan** · 03-20-2014, 12:52 PM

Webb is better suited for corner. He doesnt have the size to cover TE's or help out in run support. I could see if he wasnt doing well at CB but hes already a good CB so why switch? And what makes people just assume he would be a good safety? I think he would be an average safety, at best.

**HotInHere** · 03-20-2014, 01:12 PM

Originally Posted by HbgPARavenfan

Hes not that good anymore hes knees have killed him. I just dont understand why ppl would be opposed for him to play safety for one year until we draft or find a real safety (IF there are no other options) His salary would have no baring on a one year at safety.

The comments about his salary are what make no sense, he would be a stop gap until we found a real S. if you dont think he can play S, than thats a totally different argument.

On what do you base the idea that he's not that good anymore? The fact that he LED THE FREAKING NFL IN PASSES DEFENSED?
Maybe it's that this site has him as the TENTH BEST CB IN FOOTBALL?
Or this site that has him AT NUMBER ELEVEN?

Not only is he not "not that good anymore", he's actually one of the better CBs in football. Or does anybody on this board have any facts to support the notion that he is not a good CB? Why don't we move Joe Flacco to TE? We need one of those, and it's just about as nonsensical.