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    Re: I honestly think the Ravens should double-dip at WR this year



    Honestly, I think Jacoby is going to be more of a pure returner this year. His route running still isn't up to par with Kubiak's system, even though it has improved a little since he arrived here. More importantly, he still doesn't catch the ball with his hands enough. Torrey Smith has even improved as a hands catcher. The catch Jones made in Detroit on third down in the fourth, is one of the few I've seen him make with his hands. You're not going to have Both Smiths, Brown and potentially Mike Evans out there catching with their hands while Jacoby is not.
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    Re: I honestly think the Ravens should double-dip at WR this year

    Quote Originally Posted by bt12483 View Post
    I am just saying he is slightly redundant to what we have,and there is a benefit in having a more diversified WR corp.

    If we pick Beckham I have no issue. But we might look like Pitt when they had Brown/Sanders/Wheaton. Who are all similar WRs.
    Eh...all those guys are under 6 ft...but they still had a pretty good passing game once their OL played better and Jen wasn't getting hit every other play.


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    Re: I honestly think the Ravens should double-dip at WR this year

    Quote Originally Posted by The Excellector View Post
    Honestly, I think Jacoby is going to be more of a pure returner this year. His route running still isn't up to par with Kubiak's system, even though it has improved a little since he arrived here. More importantly, he still doesn't catch the ball with his hands enough. Torrey Smith has even improved as a hands catcher. The catch Jones made in Detroit on third down in the fourth, is one of the few I've seen him make with his hands. You're not going to have Both Smiths, Brown and potentially Mike Evans out there catching with their hands while Jacoby is not.
    JJ is absolutely solid third WR and possibly a great 4th. He made huge strides last year catching the ball away from his body. He snagged a difficult floater from joe over Ed Reed on the Jets game remember? We were actually fortunate he got hurt, had he been healthy to start the season I think JJ prices himself out of the realm of reason for Baltimore.

    He's definitely not a starter, but I expect JJ to be better in camp that any WR we draft, including Evans should he fall.

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    Re: I honestly think the Ravens should double-dip at WR this year

    Quote Originally Posted by bt12483 View Post
    I like Beckham but he seems a little redundant to Torrey/jacoby.
    Jacoby's 30 this year. He can't be returning kicks forever. Beckham Jr. would be able to come in and fill the need for a returner while competently playing WR.




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    Re: I honestly think the Ravens should double-dip at WR this year

    Quote Originally Posted by runrayrun27 View Post
    My only problem is if this happens we'd have:
    - Smith
    - Smith
    - Brown
    - Jacoby
    (locked in as the top 4) then:
    - Mellette
    - Thompson

    I know we're adding a receiver so drop Thompson off that list and add the rookie. There's the 6 we're carrying. You add another one and then you're dropping Mellette who I think has promise, but needed a year off.
    Or alternatively the Ravens drop from another position and carry 7 WRs.




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    Re: I honestly think the Ravens should double-dip at WR this year

    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    They could definitely double-dip at receiver, but it is likely one of those receivers is actually a TE.
    I think this is the most possible scenario. The Ravens have needs in a variety of areas and only four picks with which to trade around. The four compensatory picks are the kind where they have to wait for a player to come to them. They will probably pick one WR, and if they get an additional WR from the college ranks it will be a UDFA - a guy like Devin Street (Pittsburgh), reuniting with his college receivers coach (Bobby Engram).




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    Re: I honestly think the Ravens should double-dip at WR this year

    Quote Originally Posted by alien bird View Post
    I think this is the most possible scenario. The Ravens have needs in a variety of areas and only four picks with which to trade around. The four compensatory picks are the kind where they have to wait for a player to come to them. They will probably pick one WR, and if they get an additional WR from the college ranks it will be a UDFA - a guy like Devin Street (Pittsburgh), reuniting with his college receivers coach (Bobby Engram).

    To me the big needs to address in the draft are Right Tackle, WR, a Blocking Tight End (and even that can be addressed in FA, Billy Bajema's still out there), a spare RB, and a FS to groom behind a veteran.

    1st Round: Odell Beckham Jr.
    2nd Round: Antonio Richardson
    3rd Round: Donte Moncrief
    4th Round Comp: Arthur Lynch (good receiver, is the blocking TE the Ravens need)
    5th Round Comp: Marqueston Huff FS
    6th Round:Storm Johnson




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    Re: I honestly think the Ravens should double-dip at WR this year

    I think the only way they double dip is if they plan on putting a late WR pick on IR.

    Or if they don't like how Mellette looks in "voluntary" workouts.




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    Re: I honestly think the Ravens should double-dip at WR this year

    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    They could definitely double-dip at receiver, but it is likely one of those receivers is actually a TE.
    I agree. I'd love for Evans to drop to us @ #17 (wishful thinking?), then use our 2nd or 3rd on TE, but not double-dipping @ WR... Bc




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    Re: I honestly think the Ravens should double-dip at WR this year

    I'd be shocked if the first 2 rounds are WRs. Ozzie never forgets defense. With Art Jones gone and Haloti possibly gone next year I can see a DL pick early.




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    Re: I honestly think the Ravens should double-dip at WR this year

    I read that we were present at Ole Miss's pro day to evaluate Moncrief. Greg Cosell, for what it's worth, really likes this kid. He's someone to keep an eye on as the draft process unfolds.




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    Re: I honestly think the Ravens should double-dip at WR this year

    I wanted them not to bring Jacoby back and double dip, assuming some kind of vet WR was brought in. Now that they did that nad brought Jacoby back theres little chance they double dip. Theyll give Mellette a chance becasue if they do double dip, its pretty much waiving him goodbye.

    I will say that if we did double dip, it would bring in somebody more talented than mellette more than likely. He was a late rounder in a much weaker draft. so maybe the Front Office views him as replaceable and they still do it for the good of the team long term but i dont think that matches with their MO about giving guys chances.
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    Re: I honestly think the Ravens should double-dip at WR this year

    If they liked Beckham, or any of the other non-Watkins/Evans receivers, enough to draft them at 17 I don't think they would have signed Steve Smith. My guess is they're focused on OL/TE, which are both *must have* priorities, with the first 1-2 round picks.




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    Re: I honestly think the Ravens should double-dip at WR this year

    Quote Originally Posted by Brien Jackson View Post
    If they liked Beckham, or any of the other non-Watkins/Evans receivers, enough to draft them at 17 I don't think they would have signed Steve Smith. My guess is they're focused on OL/TE, which are both *must have* priorities, with the first 1-2 round picks.
    Steve Smith is 50/50 to be on the roster in 2015. Very few Wide Receivers make an impact as rookies. By the time a WR drafted in 2014 is ready Smith will be was down on the depth chart or off the team.
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    Re: I honestly think the Ravens should double-dip at WR this year

    Quote Originally Posted by GOTA View Post
    Steve Smith is 50/50 to be on the roster in 2015. Very few Wide Receivers make an impact as rookies. By the time a WR drafted in 2014 is ready Smith will be was down on the depth chart or off the team.
    First round picks aren't going to be on the inactive list, though, so even that would give you four every game receivers in addition to Smith/Mellette. I'm just saying I think they signed Smith as a stopgap at that position, and are likely looking for an OT, safety, or Ebron with that first pick.




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