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    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    I certainly hope they wait to draft him. His hands concern me.
    He probably has the best pure hands in the draft. There are other concerns to his game.

    Right now, he'd be a solid 3rd rd pick. Sit behind Steve Smith for a year or two, and contribute where he can. He's actually similar to Steve Smith as a player in a lot of ways.




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    Re: Jarvis Landry Photo

    Hands arent an issue, not sure where thats coming from. As any prospect does, he has flaws but thats probably his greatest strength.

    i like him as our 2nd, maybe if we traded back to early 2nd id be ok with him there as a high. If hes around in the 3rd i see it as a steal. I dont see him as a first rounder and frankly if we want somebody to sit and learn from smith, Cooks is more of a clone. I see Landry as more of a possession WR that uses size, body control. More like Boldin, where hes open even when he isnt. I think hes shown that ability and that will translate to the pros much like it did for jeffery.
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    Re: Jarvis Landry Photo

    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    His hands?


    Ok.


    I would understand if you said his speed or ability to separate...his hands are pretty top notch.
    I admit I don't follow the draft prospects as much as others, but I am not the only one with this concern. CBS has his drops as a concern. Goes along with the few LSU games I watched this year ....

    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/p.../jarvis-landry
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    I admit I don't follow the draft prospects as much as others, but I am not the only one with this concern. CBS has his drops as a concern. Goes along with the few LSU games I watched this year ....

    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/p.../jarvis-landry
    compares to... Eric Decker, with better hands. I think whoever wrote that did a major contradiction. Unless they meant conectration drops as in as much as anybody else would, which isnt implied those two sentences dont go together.
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    Re: Jarvis Landry Photo

    I don't follow it as well as other guys either, but they're comparing him to Crabtree. Good route runner, possession slot type of guy. The best part was his hands according to bleacher report, draft scout and a couple of the other top hits when you google it. I wouldn't mind using our 2nd rounder on him.




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    Re: Jarvis Landry Photo

    Quote Originally Posted by JAB1985 View Post
    compares to... Eric Decker, with better hands. I think whoever wrote that did a major contradiction. Unless they meant conectration drops as in as much as anybody else would, which isnt implied those two sentences dont go together.
    Perhaps. I do know what I saw (3 games) and in every game he had at least one drop. Now maybe they were the only three drops of his college career and I just happened to watch it live.
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    I like Landry.

    I've read comparisons to Boldin and Hines Ward...I can get behind a player like that here.
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    Re: Jarvis Landry Photo

    Quote Originally Posted by JustaslowZ06 View Post
    I don't follow it as well as other guys either, but they're comparing him to Crabtree. Good route runner, possession slot type of guy. The best part was his hands according to bleacher report, draft scout and a couple of the other top hits when you google it. I wouldn't mind using our 2nd rounder on him.
    I'd use a 2nd on Matthews, but a 3rd on Landry... Bc




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    Re: Jarvis Landry Photo

    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenalytics View Post
    I didn't even see the shirt. My first thought was, "I hope the NCAA doesn't find out it's his Audi."
    My impression is that players arrange loans through their agents that are essentially advances on their signing bonuses.

    Recall that Aaron Wilson had a story from about a month ago that Landry had a meeting/workout with the Ravens and John Harbaugh was at that meeting.




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    Re: Jarvis Landry Photo

    Quote Originally Posted by leachisabeast View Post
    He probably has the best pure hands in the draft. There are other concerns to his game.

    Right now, he'd be a solid 3rd rd pick. Sit behind Steve Smith for a year or two, and contribute where he can. He's actually similar to Steve Smith as a player in a lot of ways.
    Great pick in the 3rd round. I see him going higher than that though. Early to mid 2nd round would be my guess.

    Steve Smith is also the perfect guy for Landry to try and learn from. That's the ultimate upside comparison for Jarvis Landry
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    Re: Jarvis Landry Photo

    Quote Originally Posted by JoeCool5 View Post
    Have we ever drafted a player out of LSU? I don't think we have.
    Currently the Clowns have 2 Chris Faulk OT, and Barkevious Mingo LB and none from Alabama
    The Squeelers have 2 Brad Wing P, and Al Woods DE and none from Alabama
    The CincyCat have one Andrew Whitworth G and 4 from Alabama McElroy QB, Dre Kirkpatrick CB, Wallace Gilberry DE, and Andre Smith OT
    Ravens have nobody from LSU and currently only Upshaw on the roster from Alabama (sorry Cody)

    means nothing, just sounded interesting

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    I did find one player from LSU that played ONE game for the Ravens, and that is all
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howard_Green

    Nose Tackle Howard Green, drafted in 2002 by Houston, apparently cut, played one game for Ravens (no stats) then returned to Houston.
    He started 5 games last year for G.B.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shas View Post
    My impression is that players arrange loans through their agents that are essentially advances on their signing bonuses.

    Recall that Aaron Wilson had a story from about a month ago that Landry had a meeting/workout with the Ravens and John Harbaugh was at that meeting.
    This is my understanding as well.

    According to Greg Peshak, Landry has the best hands among many of the top prospects.
    http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/cf...out-of-the-box
    http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/cf...p-4-wr-metrics
    Some evaluators appear to be tough and some lenient on what constitutes a drop for college guys.

    With the obvious need, and Cam there to personally vouch, we have as good a chance to draft Landry or OBJ as anyone.
    I like him quite a bit...not quite as much as I like Quinton Patton in 2013, but he's up there.
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    Landry has the best hands in the draft. 2 drops in all of 2013 IIRC... by far the best drop % of any of the top 15 receivers in this class.

    But he's a bit of a one year wonder and he is neither fast nor quick, neither big nor physical, and so he doesn't really have any special aspect to his game other than hands. A lot of the catches he made in college with DBs draped all over him (because of lack of separation) might not fly in the NFL.

    I would absolutely draft him in the 3rd though. I think that's probably where he'll go at this point. Several WRs who might have ranked lower than him before the Combine have probably leapfrogged him on a lot of team's boards.




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    Quote Originally Posted by bmorecareful View Post
    But he's a bit of a one year wonder and he is neither fast nor quick, neither big nor physical, and so he doesn't really have any special aspect to his game other than hands. A lot of the catches he made in college with DBs draped all over him (because of lack of separation) might not fly in the NFL.
    I kind of see this as a strength. The fact hes used to catching contested catches. Kind of reminds me of what i saw and liked in Alshon Jeffery. I think if you show that ability that it translates to the NFL where space will be minimal regardless. ability to sheild with the body and catch passes away from his body I like a lot. i dont ever see him as a guy thats going to get a ton of separation on a consistent basis or use speed he doesnt really have (i think hell run 4.55 if healthy). Ward and Boldin are exactly how i expect him to turn out as a pro. Willing blocker, sure handed 3rd down wr where hes open even when he isnt.

    I dont see us spending multiple picks on WR anymore, now that Jones is back, so if we go WR early, I dont see us taking Landry later.
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    Re: Jarvis Landry Photo

    Quote Originally Posted by JAB1985 View Post
    I kind of see this as a strength. The fact hes used to catching contested catches. Kind of reminds me of what i saw and liked in Alshon Jeffery. I think if you show that ability that it translates to the NFL where space will be minimal regardless. ability to sheild with the body and catch passes away from his body I like a lot. i dont ever see him as a guy thats going to get a ton of separation on a consistent basis or use speed he doesnt really have (i think hell run 4.55 if healthy). Ward and Boldin are exactly how i expect him to turn out as a pro. Willing blocker, sure handed 3rd down wr where hes open even when he isnt.

    I dont see us spending multiple picks on WR anymore, now that Jones is back, so if we go WR early, I dont see us taking Landry later.
    I agree JAB.

    Everyone wants the receiver that can run away from defenders. Yes, that is nice to have be it through route-running or through straight up speed/quickness. However, being able to out-muscle defenders for passes, go up over defenders for passes, and make tough catches in heavy traffic are something that hardly anyone talks about and I think that is one of the most important capabilities for any NFL receiver. How comfortable are they making catches in heavy traffic?

    The probability of an NFL receiver, even the top flight ones, completely separating from all 11 defenders on a given play? Unlikely.
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