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    Re: Mad Dog Mike Curtis Baltimore Colt (32) to the hall of fame?



    Thomas was fired before the last playoff season. He was not here long enough to win it all.

    Would he have? I don't know, but he left, the Colts made the playoffs that season after and then were done.




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    Re: Mad Dog Mike Curtis Baltimore Colt (32) to the hall of fame?

    Quote Originally Posted by Greg View Post
    Thomas was fired before the last playoff season. He was not here long enough to win it all.

    True dat, but Irsay ran into contract disputes with just about everyone Thomas brought in, the sack pack, Bert, Roger Carr, etc and they all left. Irsay would have hand cuffed him like he did Sysmanski and Accorsi who said he had Elway about to sign. Says his pen was raised. Then Irsay traded him for a guard w/o telling him and don't forget when Colts passed on Walter Payton who became the greatest RB in history. We had Lydell Mitchell another great back but he was no Payton. Acorsi said he got his Masters degree in drafting that year and Ozzie learned about it too as a player then who paid attention to such things. That's why he always takes the BAA and won 2 trophies himself as a GM. Acorsi was fired too and went on to the Browns and then succeeded Young as Giants GM and built their SB 35 team, the one that we beat. Acorsi named his current successor who won two trophies after that.


    Would he have? I don't know, but he left, the Colts made the playoffs that season after and then were done.
    It was really a shame that Irsay could transfer his great business savvy to the Colts. He stole his father's air conditioning business when he was dying and his brother was in college and had to drop out to pay his dad's bills. Irsay did nothing as his own mother called him the devil on earth in an SI article. You can still google it. Irsay won the air conditioning contract for Disney World and bought the Colts. His business partners swore by him.
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    Re: Mad Dog Mike Curtis Baltimore Colt (32) to the hall of fame?

    Quote Originally Posted by livegonzo View Post
    Man, you sure do know your Colts history, what a history lesson. God Bless you for sharing this.

    Thanks man. I get bashed sometimes for being long winded but like Irsay, f*ck em.

    I do remember number 36 Norm Bulash and the human bowling ball Don Nottingham. I loved these guys as a kid and still do; that's why I did this thread. If anything, its an education for younger people who didn't know all of the great history with the Baltimore Colts and other players besides Johnny U. I also think maybe Bert Jones might have been a HOF player, if he didn't get hurt, what a football player he was.

    Man, ESPN recently showed that hit when he hurt his arm and that was years ago but Marchibroda ruined him bringing him back too soon. He would have made HOF with the Steelers or Cowgirlz. Bellicheat said Bert had the best arm he ever saw and his first job was with the Colts when Bert was here. Said his first job with the team was making copies and fixing the XEROX machine. He said the players didn't even know what a XEROX machine was.

    I show all the 20-30 something him on YouTube at work along with Mike Curtis and they can't believe it. I say "that's when football was football." Now its kind of watered down with a kind of criminal element to go. We were lucky to have lived when these guys played. I still love it and the Ravens but it is what it is. As long as we beat the Pissburgh Sqeelers and Indy that makes it worth wild. I can't help but still lose my mind on Sunday rooting for the Ravens, but have to watch my blood pressure lol. It is gone now, but if I had my choice I would want the Colts here. I guess there is blame to go around from the commie State of MD to, Shaffer, and Baltimore City for not stepping in fast enough to stop the move. Oh well!
    True but as Bisciotti says, back in those days the cities told the owners to go screw themselves when they wanted a new stadium like here, LA, OAK, and even Cleveland and then they were sorry. Now an owner gets a new stadium every 20 years like Irsay just did.




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    Re: Mad Dog Mike Curtis Baltimore Colt (32) to the hall of fame?

    Quote Originally Posted by livegonzo View Post
    Since we have all have the emotions of the past come up with the arrest of Irsay and the Baltimore Colts, I thought I would post a push on the net to get Mike Curtis into the hall of fame. As great as a player as Ray Lewis was in Baltimore. I think Mike was more aggressive and nasty, right up there with Butkus. I think we are blessed to have had linebackers like this come out of Baltimore, and I think Mad-Dog Mike belongs in the HOF.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8AwfReVeyU

    http://www.mikecurtisfootball.com/


    http://ravensroost44.blogspot.com/20...l-of-fame.html
    All of the videos have been blocked.
    "This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by the National Football League."

    Ahh the No Fun League strikes again.

    Like you I grew up loving Mike Curtis. He was most def the baddest cat out there in his day, but I just don't think he has the numbers to make the HOF.
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    Re: Mad Dog Mike Curtis Baltimore Colt (32) to the hall of fame?

    Quote Originally Posted by Real Fan Dan View Post
    All of the videos have been blocked.
    "This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by the National Football League."

    Ahh the No Fun League strikes again.

    Like you I grew up loving Mike Curtis. He was most def the baddest cat out there in his day, but I just don't think he has the numbers to make the HOF.
    You can get it on youtube or just copy the link in your browser.




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    Re: Mad Dog Mike Curtis Baltimore Colt (32) to the hall of fame?

    Quote Originally Posted by AirFlacco View Post
    . When he got his HOF bust and said thanks JOhn, I finally made it thanks to you. He wasn't here to groom our young QB someone named Marty Domres-sp. Remember him? From Unitas to Domres. Yea sure.

    And even though Thomas made the POs he never won.
    Growing up out in Glen Arm we lived around the corner from Marty Domres who was sharing a house with Don McCauley at the time. In first or second grade I remember going over and knocking on the door to get an autograph -- got both of them on 8X11 official team black and white photos --unfortunately long gone. Several years later when we were painting the house of the doctor who lived next door he used to talk about the parties they would have --and all the women. Good times.




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    Re: Mad Dog Mike Curtis Baltimore Colt (32) to the hall of fame?

    Ah man, how could I forget Don McCauley, another good guy. Yea, Marty was a good guy who could party better than throw a football. Man, he was terrible. It was unbearable to watch the Colts after John left but we did it.




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    Re: Mad Dog Mike Curtis Baltimore Colt (32) to the hall of fame?

    Quote Originally Posted by livegonzo View Post
    You can get it on youtube or just copy the link in your browser.
    Tried it. Removed by user.
    If you break the rules you can't make the rules.
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    Re: Mad Dog Mike Curtis Baltimore Colt (32) to the hall of fame?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mista T View Post
    No, no, no! As much as we all detested Thomas' coldness in dismantling the Colts, he was correct in doing so. His methodology was unpopular, in particular shipping off our icon John Unitas, but he did what had to be done. The Super Bowl team of the 1970 season got old all at once. The Colts had to be dismantled in order to be rebuilt. Thomas was the architect of rebuilding the Colts through the down years of 1972-1973 of developing rookies, into the young Colts division champs of 1974-1977.
    You're probably right. Those team just seemed to be below the Steelers, Dolphins and Raiders but they probably never would have gotten that far with the old guys.
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    Re: Mad Dog Mike Curtis Baltimore Colt (32) to the hall of fame?

    Quote Originally Posted by Real Fan Dan View Post
    Tried it. Removed by user.
    just google Mike Curts youtube;i just watched it.




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    Re: Mad Dog Mike Curtis Baltimore Colt (32) to the hall of fame?

    [QUOTE=AirFlacco;763920]Ah man, how could I forget Don McCauley, another good guy. Yea, Marty was a good guy who could party better than throw a football. Man, he was terrible. It was unbearable to watch the Colts after John left but we did it.[/QUOI

    I just met the guy a few years ago at a Colts get together in Matins West. I didn't realize how big of a person he was. He was very nice to talk to. Bert Jones acted like a stuck up Athlete. LOL , the asshole even made a pass at my girlfriend after I took her picture with him. He was close to a confrontation but i just laughed it off, no harm done. He is a very kind of pear shaped individual. He's tall but has wide hips. It was still cool to meet him but not again.




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    Re: Mad Dog Mike Curtis Baltimore Colt (32) to the hall of fame?

    Mike Curtis was the guy I tried to emulate as a young ballplayer. I remember his almost un-screwing Roman Gabriel's head in a game, and, obviously, the Fan smack-down.
    That being said, neither he, Bert Jones, Bubba Smith, nor any of those childhood heroes have HOF credentials.

    I lived and died with those guys, like many of us on this board.

    Steve Stonebreaker (great name for an LB), Tom Welch, Bobby Boyd, Lenny Lyles, Syzmansky, Sandusky, Vogel, Sam Ball, Bill Curry, Dennis Gaubatz, Don Shinnick, Lou Michaels, Billy Ray Smith......

    Heroes of my childhood....but none HOF.
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    Re: Mad Dog Mike Curtis Baltimore Colt (32) to the hall of fame?

    Quote Originally Posted by jaydee414 View Post
    Mike Curtis was the guy I tried to emulate as a young ballplayer. I remember his almost un-screwing Roman Gabriel's head in a game, and, obviously, the Fan smack-down.
    That being said, neither he, Bert Jones, Bubba Smith, nor any of those childhood heroes have HOF credentials.


    I lived and died with those guys, like many of us on this board.

    Steve Stonebreaker (great name for an LB), Tom Welch, Bobby Boyd, Lenny Lyles, Syzmansky, Sandusky, Vogel, Sam Ball, Bill Curry, Dennis Gaubatz, Don Shinnick, Lou Michaels, Billy Ray Smith......

    Heroes of my childhood....but none HOF.
    Love them all! We were lucky to have lived in that them. Its part of your soul.




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    Re: Mad Dog Mike Curtis Baltimore Colt (32) to the hall of fame?

    [QUOTE=livegonzo;764128]
    Quote Originally Posted by AirFlacco View Post
    Ah man, how could I forget Don McCauley, another good guy. Yea, Marty was a good guy who could party better than throw a football. Man, he was terrible. It was unbearable to watch the Colts after John left but we did it.[/QUOI

    I just met the guy a few years ago at a Colts get together in Matins West. I didn't realize how big of a person he was. He was very nice to talk to. Bert Jones acted like a stuck up Athlete. LOL , the asshole even made a pass at my girlfriend after I took her picture with him. He was close to a confrontation but i just laughed it off, no harm done. He is a very kind of pear shaped individual. He's tall but has wide hips. It was still cool to meet him but not again.
    Yea, Bert could be that way. He wore a belt buckle in the club house that said REDNECK.

    Anita Marks had hime on a conference call and he was a little snotty to her and she said, I'll have you know I was a pro QB too Bert JOnes. Bert laughed his ass off and said so long. She said we're not finished here yet. Bert said, no woman but my wife tells me what to do and he hung up.



    Someone mentioned Don Schinnick above. He was still around for SB 3 but ran into Ordell Brasse during practice week. They almost knocked each other out. They still suited up to play but could hardly walk.

    Weeb got a wind of the accident when he got his assist, Walt Michaels, to get his brother, Lou mentioned above, some drinks to pump him for info. He did and Lou told his brother about the accident. Lou was pretty smashed when Namath walked in. He knew what was going on. Namath knew everything. As soon as Lou saw him he jumped up and rushed him. It took about 10 guys to pull him off Namath and then Namath bought a round of drinks for the house and Lou said to his brother, he isn't such a bad guy afterall.

    But Weeb got his info and changed the game plan to attack the weak side - Schinnick's and Brasse's and ordered his linemen to cut block Brasse at the knees to further immobile him. He was like the statue of liberty.

    Shula countered by bringing CB Lenny Lyles up. Then Namath threw over Lyles to Sauer-sp. Lou also said Lyles was sick all week with the flu. Shula then moved Curtis over the cover up and then Weeb attacked the strong side of Bubba and Volk. Boozer knocked Volk out. Namath said it was the hardest hit he ever saw.

    SB 3 was like a chess match between the master and the student. I have a team pic with Shula in it as the DB under Weeb.

    Bob Costas asked Shula how he got the respect of vets like Unitas when he became the young head coach of the Colts in his early 30. Shula said I was a DB when John came into the league so I already had his respect.

    Yea, sure. Years after SB 3 Shula opened up his steak house here and all the old Colts living in the area attended the grand opening in a private room with Shula. Everyone was there but Unitas.

    When Steadman saw him he said why didn't you go to Shula's party? John said if Shula was lying in the street bleeding to death I wouldn't go over to to help him.

    That's how Unitas respected Don Shula and that's in his book:
    JOHNNY U.
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    Re: Mad Dog Mike Curtis Baltimore Colt (32) to the hall of fame?

    Schinnick was the youth pastor of our church in Towson. There was the beautiful camp owned by the denomination down on the Severn River. We had a weekend retreat there and Schinnick showed up with Ray Berry and the place went nuts.

    I was 12 yrs old and Berry had injured his knee and missed most of the season. I thought I was hot stuff walking up to him and said, how's the knee Ray? He said fine. Schnnick also led a Bible study for the kids and became a minister after his playing days. So did Joe Erhmann of the Sack Pack and he had a ministry called THE DOOR that ministered to inner city kids.

    But Berry broke my heart when he went to Indy to present the Super Bowl trophy. 105.7 FM had him on during the week so he knew how upset we were but he didn't care. He had written letters to Manning about how he and John did things and Manning wrote back. Then Manning had him on the side lines during a few games. He was the only Colt other than Shula that went to Indy and that was payback to us for running him out of town-lol.


    Ehrmann was also on the pastorial staff of Grace Fellowship Church. Stan White was a member there too. Ehrmann was quite a boozer and hell raiser in his younger days but his younger brother died and he was really shaken up. He turned to White for counseling and he brought him to God and got him in the Church. Joe recommended the new pastor after the old one left. They were roomies at Dallas Theological Seminar. The pastor told a lot of stories about Joe and said you should watch a football game with him. He tells you everything thats going to happen before it happens.

    One time I was sitting in church and someone was talking out loud during the singing, during the announcements and the prayer but when he kept talking during the sermon I turned around and said shut up, I can't hear.

    My heart dropped to the floor. It was Stan White of the Baltimore Colts and he looked like he could still put on a uniform and break me in half. Afterwards I said I'm sorry Stan, I didn't know that was you. He said I apologize, I shouldnt have been talking.

    What a guy.
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