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    Re: BREAKING: Michael Sam is gay



    Well, he isn't going to be over-drafted. He was likely a late round pick before; and is going to likely be late round or udfa now. No team is going to be jumping at the opportunity to take on this attention for a player who is likely to be just an average prospect. The word on the street is that his sexuality was about to become public knowledge, so he outed himself to he could have some control over story - sort of like Neal Patrick Harris. All the power to him. I wish him the best of luck. I hope his locker room is ready for it, and it may be. 22-23 year olds look at this stuff very differently now than they did 10 years ago. Here's to hoping that the stronger personalities in his locker room are the types who don't care, and not ignorant jerks.
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    Re: BREAKING: Michael Sam is gay

    Quote Originally Posted by Paintballguy View Post
    Because I have a relative that is gay, and I have to deal with said intolerant bigots. Hopefully one day it won't be such a big deal.

    I hope Sam catches on with a team. I'd be all for the Ravens drafting him.
    I think the point is, it's going to take a couple guys making a deal out of it for the intolerant bigots to realize a gay football player is no different than any other football player.

    Vinny and Rob were talking about how this guy obviously was expecting to make a deal out of this because they prepared for 2 days over it. Te'o didn't think anyone would make a deal over the fake girlfriend thing, but then it came out apart from his admission, and how did that look for him? Egg on his face for weeks.

    This way, he comes out, says his piece, gets the hype out of it now, IMO. By draft time, it'll probably just be a footnote.
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    Re: BREAKING: Michael Sam is gay

    Quote Originally Posted by Flipping Birdie View Post
    Well, he isn't going to be over-drafted. He was likely a late round pick before; and is going to likely be late round or udfa now. No team is going to be jumping at the opportunity to take on this attention for a player who is likely to be just an average prospect. The word on the street is that his sexuality was about to become public knowledge, so he outed himself to he could have some control over story - sort of like Neal Patrick Harris. All the power to him. I wish him the best of luck. I hope his locker room is ready for it, and it may be. 22-23 year olds look at this stuff very differently now than they did 10 years ago. Here's to hoping that the stronger personalities in his locker room are the types who don't care, and not ignorant jerks.
    He came out to his team back in August. He simply wanted to control the message prior to the draft. He wasn't concerned about being outed.
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    Re: BREAKING: Michael Sam is gay

    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    He came out to his team back in August. He simply wanted to control the message prior to the draft. He wasn't concerned about being outed.
    That is the saddest thing in all of this. What I do in my bedroom, no on is interested in. If I were gay I would need to hide it or "control the message" - that sucks.

    Had he "come out" to make a point or for attention, I'd be like "shut up, who cares", but the fact he has to do it to get a head of rumors really stinks.
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    Michael Sam was not in my top 100 sr #NFL prospects. Player w/out position. Can't play in space, not big enough to play w hand on ground
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    Re: BREAKING: Michael Sam is gay

    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    He came out to his team back in August. He simply wanted to control the message prior to the draft. He wasn't concerned about being outed.
    Different words, same meaning. I meant when the media made it public knowledge.
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    Re: BREAKING: Michael Sam is gay

    Quote Originally Posted by JCroUSAF View Post
    What I would like to happen is him go to a team like Dallas or Houston and become a super star. What would all the bigot rednecks say then if a black gay guy is leading their team? Just a thought I think he did a lot of good.
    Yes, because bigots only exist in Texas.

    If you didn't pick up on the none too subtle hint, I think you're a bigot.
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    BREAKING: Michael Sam is gay

    Quote Originally Posted by JCroUSAF View Post
    What I would like to happen is him go to a team like Dallas or Houston and become a super star. What would all the bigot rednecks say then if a black gay guy is leading their team? Just a thought I think he did a lot of good.


    Poster makes bigoted comments while trying to paint two cities, inaccurately, as being bigoted.

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    I have a feeling its going to a lot less of a story than some thought it would be. he doesnt seem to be making a big deal about it. I wish him luck. It will probably be more of a story if he goes UDFA now, but i have a feeling some team will take him in the mid to later rounds same as they would have.
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    Re: BREAKING: Michael Sam is gay

    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    I'd love for him to be a Raven. Talk about overcoming adversity.

    I really don't care how he takes his tea. He is a good pass rusher.
    A good pass rusher in college, but those big tackles may swallow him up because he doesn't have a lot of moves. I think he's a classic tweener who may find a niche somewhere, but he might be a guy without a position.




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    Re: BREAKING: Michael Sam is gay

    Quote Originally Posted by Terpsfan82 View Post
    I don't understand why this is news. I don't care what the guy does in his bedroom, and it's none of my business. All I care about is if he can play.
    Quote Originally Posted by Paintballguy View Post
    I'm just annoyed that it's a big deal. It shouldn't matter.


    As long as whatever he is doing is consensual, and not infringing on anyone else's freedoms, who cares?

    I am more annoyed at the perceived implication in the media (at least perceived by me) that this is an "issue" about which I should care very, very deeply (with furrowed brow).
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    Re: BREAKING: Michael Sam is gay

    Quote Originally Posted by Terpsfan82 View Post
    "Gay ID". Classic.
    Why would you need an ID?
    Or is Gay-dar not a real thing?


    Now for real:
    1. I think that his draft position will basically be unchanged. Three reasons for thinking this are: A. The Bulk of the teams will slightly lower his grade, as he might be a bit of a distraction in camp. B. Some teams will drop him off their board completely for whatever reasons. C. I see a very good chance that a few teams might raise his stock dramatically as an effort to reach a niche of their fan base. A team that doesn't particularly draft well might take him a round or even two earlier then they otherwise feel they "should" in an effort to get headlines and make inroads into their fan base... JAX randomly strikes me as a place this might be true.

    Now, for the Ravens, he seems like he could be a quite decent Pass-rush specialist, who could perhaps grow into an every-down weak side 3-4 OLB'er. To me, that is the type of player we might start to look at around the 3rd comp level(if we have one) and certainly by the 4th-Comp area.




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    Re: BREAKING: Michael Sam is gay

    Quote Originally Posted by darb72 View Post
    Yes, because bigots only exist in Texas.

    If you didn't pick up on the none too subtle hint, I think you're a bigot.
    The south has a stereotype of being racist and against gay marriage, that includes Texas, I was just tapping into that stereotype. I live in Oklahoma City and make frequent trips to Texas and it isn't as acceptable as other states. I do not see how that makes me a bigot and I take offense to that. I said I'm rooting for the kid to succeed




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    Re: BREAKING: Michael Sam is gay

    I guess I'm still confused how what I said was bigoted? Because your sig is in one of the cities I mentioned your angry? I'm not a bigot or racist at all. I'm glad to see your as closed minded as others if you can't see my point. Yea there are bigots everywhere, but the south does have that stereotype and I used it. If Mississippi had a pro team I would of said them, i was simply saying it would be good for the kid to go there and become a star because maybe he would invoke some tolerance. But you just want to attack people




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    Re: BREAKING: Michael Sam is gay

    Quote Originally Posted by JCroUSAF View Post
    I guess I'm still confused how what I said was bigoted? Because your sig is in one of the cities I mentioned your angry? I'm not a bigot or racist at all. I'm glad to see your as closed minded as others if you can't see my point. Yea there are bigots everywhere, but the south does have that stereotype and I used it. If Mississippi had a pro team I would of said them, i was simply saying it would be good for the kid to go there and become a star because maybe he would invoke some tolerance. But you just want to attack people
    The irony of this post is so delicious, it's probably fattening. Thanks for making my point.
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