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    BREAKING: Michael Sam is gay



    DE/OLB prospect for Missou who is draft eligible has now come out publicly. Very good player too; 1st team all American & SEC defensive player of the year. Will be first NFL active player who has come out.

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    Re: BREAKING: Michael Sam is gay

    Ballsy. Somebody had to start it.

    All I care about is if he plays like a raven if we draft him.




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    Re: BREAKING: Michael Sam is gay

    This . . . will be interesting. Good for him. I am sure people will say and do the right things, and I think both (a) it's a big deal, and (b) it will, in his draft and career, go more quietly than some people would expect.

    So, good for him, now we wait. Optimistically.

    edit: As an OLB, Michael Sam is both the "Mike" and the "Sam."
    Festivus

    His definitions and arguments were so clear in his own mind that he was unable to understand how any reasonable person could honestly differ with him.




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    Re: BREAKING: Michael Sam is gay

    Better story than freakin Teo.




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    Re: BREAKING: Michael Sam is gay

    Quote Originally Posted by bt12483 View Post
    Ballsy. Somebody had to start it.

    All I care about is if he plays like a raven if we draft him.
    Not trying to be a homophobic but if I were Ozzie I would not draft him. He would be a huge distraction to our team. And I don't know how comfortable our players would be with him in the locker room. Congrats to him though on coming out, I'm sure it's not easy to do, especially when your about to get drafted.

    Not a fan though




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    Re: BREAKING: Michael Sam is gay

    Robert Klemko ‏@RobertKlemko
    Sam ran hills with J. Collins on Fri. Dinner with Wade Davis, Kluwe, Brendon, Billy Bean last night. Hit gay bar. Sung 'My Girl' in karaoke.




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    Re: BREAKING: Michael Sam is gay

    Quote Originally Posted by rayvensfan52 View Post
    Robert Klemko ‏@RobertKlemko
    Sam ran hills with J. Collins on Fri. Dinner with Wade Davis, Kluwe, Brendon, Billy Bean last night. Hit gay bar. Sung 'My Girl' in karaoke.
    I assume our former Brendon. What the hell is brendons deal? He has kids and a wife right? But then lives life as a gay dude? Bi?
    I don't get him.

    Not that it matters. Just confuses me.




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    Re: BREAKING: Michael Sam is gay

    Quote Originally Posted by bt12483 View Post
    I assume our former Brendon. What the hell is brendons deal? He has kids and a wife right? But then lives life as a gay dude? Bi?
    I don't get him.

    Not that it matters. Just confuses me.
    He's bi.




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    As long as Ritchie incognito isn't on the same team as Sam, he'll be alright. SMH




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    Re: BREAKING: Michael Sam is gay

    Quote Originally Posted by bt12483 View Post
    I assume our former Brendon. What the hell is brendons deal? He has kids and a wife right? But then lives life as a gay dude? Bi?
    I don't get him.

    Not that it matters. Just confuses me.
    They do let straight people in gay bars. You don't have to show your gay ID to get in.




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    Re: BREAKING: Michael Sam is gay

    All I care about is him playing football




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    Re: BREAKING: Michael Sam is gay

    Quote Originally Posted by ravens47 View Post
    Not trying to be a homophobic but if I were Ozzie I would not draft him. He would be a huge distraction to our team. And I don't know how comfortable our players would be with him in the locker room. Congrats to him though on coming out, I'm sure it's not easy to do, especially when your about to get drafted.

    Not a fan though
    You might not be "trying" to be homophobic, but you seem to be projecting homophobia onto others. Why shouldn't the Ravens draft this talented young man? I don't buy the "distraction" angle. The Ravens, like any other functional organization, have to deal with employees of all different shapes, sizes, etc. and being gay is a lot less problematic than being a drug-addled criminal, like a lot of NFL players are.

    The reality is that the NFL is already full of gay players, just like the world has always been full of gay people. The only difference is that now they can be who they are without (for the most part) being subject to violence and indiscriminate hatred.




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    Re: BREAKING: Michael Sam is gay

    Quote Originally Posted by OhThePossibilities View Post
    They do let straight people in gay bars. You don't have to show your gay ID to get in.
    Yeah but come on. I don't want to stereotype brendon, but it seems clear he is at least bi.

    The weird thing is I guess he and his wife have an open understanding? Whatever.

    All I care about is how players run, jump, learn etc. and their work ethic. Just win.




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    Re: BREAKING: Michael Sam is gay

    How will news that Michael Sam is gay affect NFL draft his stock?


    "I don't think football is ready for it just yet," said an NFL player personnel assistant. "In the coming decade or two, it's going to be acceptable, but at this point in time it's still a man's man game. To call somebody a [gay slur] is still so commonplace. It'd chemically imbalance an NFL locker room and meeting room."
    One former NFL general manager described how Sam's future could play out in the draft room. He said when a team is getting in position to make a pick, there's typically a declaration in the draft room that they're nine slots from choosing and will pick from six different players, or five spots away and choose from three players.

    If Sam is among that group of players, the potential distraction of his presence -- both in the media and the locker room -- could prevent him from being selected.

    "That will break a tie against that player," he said. "Every time. Unless he's Superman. Why? Not that they're against gay people. It's more that some players are going to look at you upside down. Every Tom, Dick and Harry in the media is going to show up, from Good Housekeeping to the Today Show. A general manager is going to ask, 'Why are we going to do that to ourselves?'"
    The former general manager said that it would take an NFL franchise with a strong owner, savvy general manager and veteran coach to make it work. He rattled off franchises like Pittsburgh, Green Bay, San Francisco, Baltimore and Indianapolis as destinations where that could happen. He said that a team with a rookie head coach would not be an ideal destination. "This plays better in Green Bay," he said, "that it does in New York."




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    Re: BREAKING: Michael Sam is gay

    This makes me happy. Progress! Proud of this man. Sadly, I'm sure the uneducated trolls will spew hate on social media soon.

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