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    Re: Center Position



    I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that I believe GG will be the Ravens starting Center in 2014. I think he improved some towards season's end, and will be put through a rigorous off-season strength & conditioning program. A. Q. Shipley was a mistake, so I can see another veteran Center being obtained, but not one like Mack who would co$t a lot... Bc




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    Quote Originally Posted by NC Raven View Post
    If the Ravens spend big money on any free agent, it's Alex Mack. (Though the press conference today made me think they might spend on a WR ...)

    Or maybe like you say, they try and "Birk it" again with an old plug-in vet, not wanting to allocate money to that position.
    Well, they said that they will have that guy on their roster by the end of 2014, right?

    To me, that means they will be drafting a couple of receivers that fit their mold and develop them. At pick 16/17 it is likely that one of the top 3 receivers will be available to them.


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    Quote Originally Posted by leachisabeast View Post
    I think Monroe compares favorably to a player like Will Beatty (after 2012 season) for the Giants. Both young players, around the same size, same upside/value, and played at similar levels. Beatty fractured his tibia this season, lets hope we wouldn't have the same luck with Monroe. Beatty signed a 5 year $37.5M deal, with $19M in guaranteed money.
    To me, that seems pretty affordable when you are talking about protecting a guy you just invested the future of the franchise in.

    That deal averages about 7.5 per year. Bump that up to around 8 for 5 years and make it an even $40 mill with 20 guaranteed.


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    Re: Center Position

    Mack and Byrd will be the most coveted free agents.




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    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    To me, that seems pretty affordable when you are talking about protecting a guy you just invested the future of the franchise in.

    That deal averages about 7.5 per year. Bump that up to around 8 for 5 years and make it an even $40 mill with 20 guaranteed.


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    Absolutely, and they will likely back load the deal as they do with most of their big contracts.




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    In the press conference today Ozzie mentioned that we need to get bigger in the interior of the O line. IMO pointing the finger right at Gino. We would all like to see him sign Mack but I don't think it will happen. There are questions around KO and whether he can play at the same level he did prior to the back injury. There is the WR position that needs to be addressed, and IMO they need to build the depth chart at all of the O line positions. So there is too much to do to spend top 5 money on a center.
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    In support of Wickeds argument however, the Ravens were not afraid to sign Dumervil last offseason, they were also not afraid to cut Boldin to help with that deal. If you're considering cutting a player like Suggs, you better replace him with a pretty good player. Signing Alex Mack, and getting KO back healthy, and resigning Monroe imo would make this a top 5 unit, is it worth the investment?




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    Quote Originally Posted by lowrider View Post
    In the press conference today Ozzie mentioned that we need to get bigger in the interior of the O line. IMO pointing the finger right at Gino. We would all like to see him sign Mack but I don't think it will happen. There are questions around KO and whether he can play at the same level he did prior to the back injury. There is the WR position that needs to be addressed, and IMO they need to build the depth chart at all of the O line positions. So there is too much to do to spend top 5 money on a center.
    When you consider what Flacco did with Marlon, Torrey, and Jacoby with very little time and zero running game, can you really afford to NOT spend on the OL?

    Monroe, KO, Mack, Yanda, Wagner

    That's significantly better than last year even if Wagner sucks.

    They still have Jah, Jensen, and Gino and they could easily draft another mid to late round swing tackle for depth. However, KO can also play RT in a pinch and Gino, Jah or Jensen can play guard.

    I actually think the depth isn't as bad as some would make it out to be. The problem is those depth players are good spot/depth players, but not someone you'd want as a starter for the whole season.


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    Quote Originally Posted by leachisabeast View Post
    In support of Wickeds argument however, the Ravens were not afraid to sign Dumervil last offseason, they were also not afraid to cut Boldin to help with that deal. If you're considering cutting a player like Suggs, you better replace him with a pretty good player. Signing Alex Mack, and getting KO back healthy, and resigning Monroe imo would make this a top 5 unit, is it worth the investment?
    Considering how poorly the OL played and how it impacted both phases of the offense in a MAJOR way...yea, is say it is worth it.

    Additionally, if Wagner even remotely plays at an average level, he is so cheap that the Ravens would have LG and RT playing at inexpensive rates.


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    If Ozzie wants to get bigger Gino does not fit. The center for the Saints might be a consideration.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Bawlamer View Post
    If Ozzie wants to get bigger Gino does not fit. The center for the Saints might be a consideration.
    Assuming they don't resign him, which they very well may do.


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    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    When you consider what Flacco did with Marlon, Torrey, and Jacoby with very little time and zero running game, can you really afford to NOT spend on the OL?

    Monroe, KO, Mack, Yanda, Wagner

    That's significantly better than last year even if Wagner sucks.

    They still have Jah, Jensen, and Gino and they could easily draft another mid to late round swing tackle for depth. However, KO can also play RT in a pinch and Gino, Jah or Jensen can play guard.

    I actually think the depth isn't as bad as some would make it out to be. The problem is those depth players are good spot/depth players, but not someone you'd want as a starter for the whole season.


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    I think they do have to spend on the O line I just don't know if Ozzie will spend that kind of money on the center position. Especially when there are multiple positions that need to be addressed. Besides the center position the RT position is in flux and KO is still a question mark IMO. Back injuries are serious. Sometimes surgery works and sometimes it does not. I am hoping for the best for him but we'll just have to wait and see. I hope I'm wrong because I really would love to have Mack here, but knowing Ozzie he just won't want to pay that kind of money to get him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    Well, they said that they will have that guy on their roster by the end of 2014, right?

    To me, that means they will be drafting a couple of receivers that fit their mold and develop them. At pick 16/17 it is likely that one of the top 3 receivers will be available to them.


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    Well, the part that had me wondering is when he said that sometimes you get a Torrey, but sometimes you get a Travis Taylor. Which suggested they didn't necessarily feel that drafting a WR was the sure fire way to ensure the guy they want will, with certainty, be on the Ravens roster in 2014.

    It had me thinking they'd take the safe route like they did with Boldin, and just pick up a known commodity.

    Boldin was always a safe pair of hands, but couldn't be a gamebreaker by the time we got him. Before him it was Mason. I don't see them branching out, or taking a chance.




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    Re: Center Position

    This team lives and dies by its oline. They one change from the playoffs and this year. Oline play.




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    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    Assuming they don't resign him, which they very well may do.


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    Because of their cap situation they need to make some tough decisions. They can't keep everyone they have. If they do they'll be 11 mil over the cap. I think they might let him go. We'll see.




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