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    Re: Full Offseason Roster and Salary Cap breakdown



    Quote Originally Posted by GOTA View Post
    A 29 year old TE who only caught 50 catches once in his career and is coming off a major injury won't get anything close to that. If he's lucky he'll get $2.5 for 1 year. It could be a lot less. If he kills it next year then he could get that big contract but I be shocked to see it this year.
    He's 28.

    The injury might be a concern if he hadn't taken the field at the end of this season and looked healthy and productive.

    Prior to 2013, he had only 2 years as a starter, the last being a 61-catch season @ 11.0 Yds/rec and 7 TDs. This is what people will look at when judging what they expect to get from him, and TEs who put up those kind of numbers get paid in the $4-6Mil per range on multi-year contracts.

    Greg Olsen, for example: In his 4 seasons with the Bears, he averaged just under 50 catches, 500 yards, and 5 TDs - just about exactly what Pitta averaged in 2011 and 2012. Olsen got a 5-year, $23Mil contract from the Panthers. The market for Pitta won't be much less.




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    Re: Full Offseason Roster and Salary Cap breakdown

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    He's 28...
    I believe that GOTA meant that Pitta would be 29 (birthday on June 29th) before the 2014 season started. AND he's right... Bc




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    Re: Full Offseason Roster and Salary Cap breakdown

    Sorry Gota, but I think you have a short memory on this one imo. GMs are going to turn on the tape of that SB run, and offer Pitta big bucks, he was money in that run, and was a huge part of why we won the SB.




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    Re: Full Offseason Roster and Salary Cap breakdown

    Quote Originally Posted by leachisabeast View Post
    Sorry Gota, but I think you have a short memory on this one imo. GMs are going to turn on the tape of that SB run, and offer Pitta big bucks, he was money in that run, and was a huge part of why we won the SB.
    I beg to differ here. If Pitta was an UFA after the Ravens Super Bowl victory, then the sky's the limit (well almost) for a TE of his talent. After his injury in 2013, missing so many games, and being 29 at the start of next season, I do not think many teams will be bidding high $ numbers and/or years for his John Hancock... Bc




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    Re: Full Offseason Roster and Salary Cap breakdown

    So you guys that think pitta is going to be limited to a one year lowball contract...please throw out some numbers.

    1/$500k?
    1/$1M?

    I think that it dead wrong, but I am curious to see how little you think he is worth.




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    Re: Full Offseason Roster and Salary Cap breakdown

    Quote Originally Posted by bt12483 View Post
    So you guys that think pitta is going to be limited to a one year lowball contract...please throw out some numbers.

    1/$500k?
    1/$1M?

    I think that it dead wrong, but I am curious to see how little you think he is worth.
    1 year $2 to $ 2.5 million
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    Re: Full Offseason Roster and Salary Cap breakdown

    Quote Originally Posted by GOTA View Post
    1 year $2 to $ 2.5 million
    Pitta will arguably be the second best free agent TE on the market. Jimmy graham will get $8-10M/year.

    And pitta will get $2M? I think you are underestimating his place in the market.




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    Re: Full Offseason Roster and Salary Cap breakdown

    All it takes is one team with a lot of money and a need at TE to make his number go up.

    I don't think he will get 5 per but he's getting more than 2.5.




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    Re: Full Offseason Roster and Salary Cap breakdown

    Considering Pitta's relationship with Flacco, I think he will get a multi-year deal in the range of 3-4 mill per year.


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    Re: Full Offseason Roster and Salary Cap breakdown

    I'm thinking 3 years, 10-11 mill with 4 or 5 guaranteed.


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    1 year $2 to $ 2.5 million
    In 3 years with the Seahawks (2008-2010), John Carlson averaged 46 catches, 506 yds, and 4.3 TDs

    Injuries (concussions) caused him to miss all of the 2011 season

    In March 2012, at the age of 27 (turning 28 in May of that year), the Vikings signed him to a 5-year, $25Mil contract, with $9.1Mil guaranteed.

    A 28-year old (turning 29) Dennis Pitta is not signing a 1-year, $2.5Mil contract.

    ETA: Even if his injury WERE a concern (and it shouldn't be, more on that below), there's no way we are signing him for the price of a mediocre #2 TE.

    And here's why his injury will not hurt him much, if at all:

    4 games, 20 receptions, 169 yds, 1TD. That's what he did when he came back. Pro-rate those numbers over a full season and you get:
    80 catches, 676 yards, 4TDs.

    Meaning that, even after rushing back less than 5 months removed from major surgery, he was already producing at a level that would put him up among the better TEs in the business. Image what he'll do after a full off-season of recovery time, and playing in a better offense.
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    Carlson is a much better blocker than Pitta, but I agree with you on Pitta's prospects in terms of a deal. Hopefully we can get him to take a hometown discount and get him for around $4M per year, or maybe less guaranteed than he might want/expect (with higher, unguaranteed back end years).




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    Re: Full Offseason Roster and Salary Cap breakdown

    Ha. One thing we can say: Dennis Pitta is NOT gonna give a hometown discount. He's a professional, he's not dumb, he knows that his next contract will probably be his last, or at least his last big contract. Pitta does not need Flacco.

    My big fear is that Ozzie thinks that Pitta is a MUST SIGN and overpays for him. I hope we do sign him but not at any price. If the price is too high, I;d rather pass, sign Dickson to a vet minimum (much more realistic than Pitta signing a 1 year make good contract), sign Ebron or Amaro in round 1 and give Fursty a chance in the preseason to develop.




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