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    Re: Full Offseason Roster and Salary Cap breakdown



    I am thinking Eugene Monroe can get at least $8M/year on the open market.

    Ravens are going to have to pay up if they want to secure him.

    I can see a deal ranging anywhere from 5/$40M to 5/$50M.




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    I think Pitta will fall somewhere between $4-7M/year.

    He seems like a guy that will better on the Ravens than any other team. I hope that proves true in free agency, and reduces his price tag.

    Age+injury should also help the Ravens retain him.




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    Re: Full Offseason Roster and Salary Cap breakdown

    Brian and the article got some great recognition this morning on 105.7 The Fan!

    They interviewed Brian and were extremely complementary of the article and of his work in general. Well deserved! I was excited to hear it.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyle Cactus View Post
    Brian and the article got some great recognition this morning on 105.7 The Fan!

    They interviewed Brian and were extremely complementary of the article and of his work in general. Well deserved! I was excited to hear it.
    I heard it too. Pretty cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bt12483 View Post
    I think Pitta will fall somewhere between $4-7M/year.

    He seems like a guy that will better on the Ravens than any other team. I hope that proves true in free agency, and reduces his price tag.

    Age+injury should also help the Ravens retain him.
    I don't think Pitta gets anything close to that on the open market. He's going to take a 1 year low salary deal like so many others to try and get his numbers up for next season.
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    Thing about Pitta...if he takes a one year deal, he will be turning 30 in 2015.

    How many teams would give a 30 year old good, but not dynamic TE a big contract?


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    Quote Originally Posted by B-more Ravor View Post
    On another note, the more I've thought about it, then more I can see them non-tendering both RFAs - Doss and McClellan. I guess is comes down to what they do to otherwise create Cap space, but if they need to find some excess, those two are most definitely at risk IMO.

    For Doss, there are now 6 WRs already under contract - Torrey, Marlon, Thompson, Mellette and the 2 PS guys. I guess it comes down to the need for his PR ability, but he faded tremendously down the stretch. I guess he's sort of in the same boat as David Reed was last year, and Reed was non-tendered and signed to a contract that was less than the RFA tender.

    In Doss' favor though is that with Jacoby a FA, Doss is our primary PR right now, so that may be enough to get him tendered for now.

    McClellan also faded badly, so it again will come down to whether they really need that $400-700K in saving that would come from a non-tender.
    Asa Jacksons presence kind of kills some of Doss usefulness as a return. I am assuming Thompson is a guy they would look at also. I could see Doss not back.




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    Re: Full Offseason Roster and Salary Cap breakdown

    Definitely see Doss not being back. However giving him a minimum offer doesn't lock us in so why not do it? We could still cut him in training camp. At any rate the WR corp needs a talent infusion.


    With Ngata...I can't see a post June 1 cut. Or the only way I see it is if we draft a DT in round 1. We will probably have two fewer DL's with Jones and Cody going away; hard to see cutting a third DL when his replacement will not be nearly of his quality.




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    Re: Full Offseason Roster and Salary Cap breakdown

    Quote Originally Posted by GOTA View Post
    I don't think Pitta gets anything close to that (4 - 7 million) on the open market. He's going to take a 1 year low salary deal like so many others to try and get his numbers up for next season.
    I concur. His injury really spoiled his walk year. I do think he will be more valuable to the Ravens than any other team due to his chemistry with Flacco too. There are stupid teams out there who are willing to overpay (Browns - Kruger for example), but I still think Pitta will be a Raven in 2014... Bc




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    Quote Originally Posted by GOTA View Post
    I don't think Pitta gets anything close to that on the open market. He's going to take a 1 year low salary deal like so many others to try and get his numbers up for next season.
    Here are the TEs in the $4-7M range:

    Jared Cook $7,020,000
    Jermichael Finley $7,000,000
    Tony Gonzalez $7,000,000
    Marcedes Lewis $6,800,000
    Zach Miller $6,800,000
    Heath Miller $6,750,000
    Greg Olsen $5,700,000
    Owen Daniels $5,421,875
    Martellus Bennett $5,100,000
    Brent Celek $4,875,000
    Dustin Keller $4,250,000
    Anthony Fasano $4,000,000

    http://overthecap.com/top-player-sal...hp?Position=TE


    You can't tell me a SB winning TE with good hands doesn't belong in that group.

    I fully expect Pitta to sign a Ravens friendly contract for 3-4 years. But anything that averages less than $4M/year would be a steal. The TEs under $4M/year are largely nobodies.




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    ----I'd think Pitta gets resigned in the 3 year/$10million range. The Ravens can probably get him in the $2-2.5m range in terms of 2014 cap #.

    ----I'd put Monroe in the 5 year/$37.5 range. Again, I'm sure a contract can be structured so that his 2014 cap figure is about half of his $7.5 annual salary.

    ----I don't think that tendering Doss or McClellan makes sense, I'd expect both back in a similar fashion to Cox/Reed/Harewood last year.

    ----I'd love to think the Ravens would be able to keep Ihedigbo. I just don't think he pairs well with Elam, which is not a reflection on either's talent, but just their overall skills. I think you are going to run into two problems.

    #1- Ihedigbo has been primarily a special teams guy for most of his career. He's never really hit his big pay day. I suspect he might get a 2 or 3 year contract from another team in the $2.5-3m/year range, which the Ravens clearly won't match. It might be hard to see a 31 year old (2014 age) veteran who has made less than $5m in his entire NFL career take backup money to stay when starter money is offered.

    #2- Even if the Ravens wanted to give him a generous contract to be a backup, they likely don't have the money to do so when they have "need" positions that need addressed. Bringing back Ihedigbo as a backup/ST ace is more of a luxury than a need.


    ----If I was Ozzie, I'd extend Suggs. However, past precedence says he will be told to take a pay cut or released (which worked out so well with Boldin). I think the Ravens need to assess his market value heading forward and go from there. For instance, if the market for Suggs next year when he turns 32, is 3 years-$15m, then I think they essentially extend him to that level.

    Here's how I would do that: Take his $7.8m and convert it to a $1m base salary and a $6.8 signing bonus. Then give him a 2 year/$7.2m extension with an additional $1m signing bonus for the extension. I'd guarantee his 2015 pay too. If I am true in assessing Suggs' market value, this would be an instance of giving him fair market value in a more team-friendly manner. It would make sense for Suggs because he gets to stay with a team that he's familiar with for a rate similar to what he would attract on the open market. He'd also get $7.8m of his new contract upfront, which certainly would not happen if he were to sign a 3 year deal elsewhere. Getting the $7.8 upfront for a player with Suggs' mileage is the big win for him. With NFL contracts, it's not the size of the contract, but rather the guaranteed money and Suggs would get $8.8m guaranteed for 2014 and an additional $2.5m guaranteed for 2015.

    From the Ravens standpoint, it clears us $4.67m against that 2014 cap, which as we saw last year, can be enough to sign 2-3 decent players.

    2014: Cap figure is $4.6 original dead money+ $1m base salary+ $2.3 prorated bonus= $7.9m, which sounds a lot more reasonable than $12.4

    2015: $2.5 base salary+ $500k prorated extension bonus+ $2.3 prorated restructure bonus= $5.3m

    2016: $3.7 base salary (non guaranteed)+ $500k prorated extension bonus +$2.3 prorated restructure bonus= $6.8m




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    Re: Full Offseason Roster and Salary Cap breakdown

    Thanks for the break down as always ravor.

    Personally, I think its almost certain that there is at least some type of alteration to Sizzles cap number next year that would reduce the cap hit by at least $4M, and if not, straight up released, which would save around $7M if I'm not mistaken.

    If everything Luke pointed out comes to fruition. I think we sign a vet C (Brian De La Puente), a FS (Ryan Mundy), and a RT to compete with Wagner (Eric Winston). Not saying in any way that these are the players the Ravens will look at, but just examples of players that would make sense financially.

    That would leave us with the opportunity to focus on getting play makers or maybe an impact defensive player in the draft. WR, and TE are key holes, ILB, CB, and DE/DT are more minor holes if the above happens.




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    ^^^^ I think both the projected Pitta and Monroe contracts are at the low end of what they will get. Those look more like baseline values to me.




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    Re: Full Offseason Roster and Salary Cap breakdown

    Quote Originally Posted by bt12483 View Post
    Here are the TEs in the $4-7M range:

    Jared Cook $7,020,000
    Jermichael Finley $7,000,000
    Tony Gonzalez $7,000,000
    Marcedes Lewis $6,800,000
    Zach Miller $6,800,000
    Heath Miller $6,750,000
    Greg Olsen $5,700,000
    Owen Daniels $5,421,875
    Martellus Bennett $5,100,000
    Brent Celek $4,875,000
    Dustin Keller $4,250,000
    Anthony Fasano $4,000,000

    http://overthecap.com/top-player-sal...hp?Position=TE


    You can't tell me a SB winning TE with good hands doesn't belong in that group.

    I fully expect Pitta to sign a Ravens friendly contract for 3-4 years. But anything that averages less than $4M/year would be a steal. The TEs under $4M/year are largely nobodies.
    A 29 year old TE who only caught 50 catches once in his career and is coming off a major injury won't get anything close to that. If he's lucky he'll get $2.5 for 1 year. It could be a lot less. If he kills it next year then he could get that big contract but I be shocked to see it this year.
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    Re: Full Offseason Roster and Salary Cap breakdown

    Quote Originally Posted by GOTA View Post
    A 29 year old TE who only caught 50 catches once in his career and is coming off a major injury won't get anything close to that. If he's lucky he'll get $2.5 for 1 year. It could be a lot less. If he kills it next year then he could get that big contract but I be shocked to see it this year.
    so is your goal to challenge everything I post?

    Because that is what it seems like.

    Go look up the TEs getting $2.5M and see if Pitta belongs in that group.

    Fred Davis? Scott Chandler? Brandon Myers? Jacob tamme?

    Less you say? Ben Watson gets $1.6M.
    That is who pitta is closest to?




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