The 2014 Ravens Draft Thread

**Raveninwoodlawn** · 02-23-2014, 04:16 PM

Originally Posted by bt12483

You mean guys that are paid by football organizations instead of posting on messageboards? Like me and you? I said safest total package in previous posts.

So we should all just shut up and never have opinions.

Ok.

I'll remember that the next time a former or current GM or coach makes a decision you don't agree with...

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**bt12483** · 02-23-2014, 04:21 PM

Originally Posted by Raveninwoodlawn

So we should all just shut up and never have opinions.

Ok.

I'll remember that the next time a former or current GM or coach makes a decision you don't agree with...

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I may not agree with them, but I will never state I know more than them and question their football intelligence. There is a difference.

**Raveninwoodlawn** · 02-23-2014, 04:22 PM

Originally Posted by bt12483

I may not agree with them, but I will never state I know more than them. There is a difference.

I never said I did.

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**arnie_uk** · 02-23-2014, 05:20 PM

Originally Posted by bt12483

I may not agree with them, but I will never state I know more than them and question their football intelligence. There is a difference.

Those "experts" don't know everything, I can't remember anyone criticising Jamarcus Russell too much

**wickedsolo** · 02-23-2014, 05:57 PM

I'm still hoping Mike Evans falls to Baltimore because of other teams moving up to take linemen, pass rushers, and quarterbacks.

I think they also have to strongly consider Jordan Matthews in round 1. Maybe not at 17, but in round 1. He won't be there in round 2 when they pick. No way.

**Yogidriver** · 02-23-2014, 06:08 PM

Originally Posted by wickedsolo

I'm still hoping Mike Evans falls to Baltimore because of other teams moving up to take linemen, pass rushers, and quarterbacks.

I think they also have to strongly consider Jordan Matthews in round 1. Maybe not at 17, but in round 1. He won't be there in round 2 when they pick. No way.

Same here. I think Evans could really help Flacco. Big, tall, target with good hands that can jump! I know some folks are going to say we have Marlon Brown, but, You can't have too many weapons. My hope is that Ozzie fixes the Oline before the draft, other teams have other needs, and we snag Evans at 17!

If I was Ozzie I'd have to think hard about trading up for that guy..if necessary.

**wickedsolo** · 02-23-2014, 06:09 PM

Originally Posted by Mizerooskie

And he lacks suddenness, separation, and elusiveness. Don't get me wrong, I like the guy a lot as a prospect, but he's not without holes in his game.

The SEC East really isn't that great of a division. The West is much more stacked. And I think playing under one of the best offensive minds in CFB compensates for the lack of QB.

So going by that logic, Sammy Watkins racking up yards in the ACC could be considered a slight against him too then, right?

I think if you go back and look at some of the numbers Matthews produced against a lot of SEC teams, you'd see that he was indeed quite a productive player.

**BcRaven** · 02-23-2014, 06:22 PM

Originally Posted by Yogidriver

... If I was Ozzie I'd have to think hard about trading up for that guy..if necessary.

Again, we don't have the ammo to trade up. We are without 4th and 5th round picks. Are you suggesting we trade our 2nd or 3rd? I'll make a "gentleman's bet" that Ozzie wouldn't do that. Anyway, this is a pretty deep draft, so there should be an impact player available @ #17 IMO... Bc

**Mizerooskie** · 02-23-2014, 06:27 PM

Originally Posted by wickedsolo

So going by that logic, Sammy Watkins racking up yards in the ACC could be considered a slight against him too then, right?

I think if you go back and look at some of the numbers Matthews produced against a lot of SEC teams, you'd see that he was indeed quite a productive player.

When did I say it was a slight against him? I simply corrected the assertion that he played in the toughest division in college football.

**wickedsolo** · 02-23-2014, 06:37 PM

Originally Posted by Mizerooskie

When did I say it was a slight against him? I simply corrected the assertion that he played in the toughest division in college football.

Sure seems like you were arguing that Matthews production came against "not that great" competition.

Production is production and Matthews produced against top competition with a lackluster QB. That says a lot IMO.

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**Mizerooskie** · 02-23-2014, 06:43 PM

Originally Posted by wickedsolo

Sure seems like you were arguing that Matthews production came against "not that great" competition.

Production is production and Matthews produced against top competition with a lackluster QB. That says a lot IMO.

Oh please. I was responding to a guy that was basically calling him the perfect prospect.

The only (slightly) negative word I said about production was 'Who cares about records?', which is a perfectly valid question considering how long heavy passing offenses have been around.

**bt12483** · 02-23-2014, 06:48 PM

Originally Posted by Mizerooskie

Oh please. I was responding to a guy that was basically calling him the perfect prospect.

The only (slightly) negative word I said about production was 'Who cares about records?', which is a perfectly valid question considering how long heavy passing offenses have been around.

I said safest. In what world does safest mean perfect?