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    Re: Worst salary caps? Cowboys, Saints, Steelers lead way



    Quote Originally Posted by Complex View Post
    Hard to tell. Bell I think has proven himself. The rest not so. The Steelers love to sit rookies way too much. The offense will be fine, it is the defense I am worried about. I forgot to add Clark to that list - he will more than likely be gone as well. I think as they shed the vets like Kiesel and Clark, they will free money up. They will have a different look this upcoming season for sure.
    Clark is not on the books for 2014, according to OverTheCap.com. Neither is The Beard.

    http://overthecap.com/teamcap.php?Te...lers&Year=2014

    Looks like it's updated with Heath's new deal, but not yet with Polamalu's. Before Polamalu extension, Steelers still 11.673 over the cap. Ian Rapoport says Polamalu's cap number lowered by 4.5 mil. And as said before, Ike and Levi would create 13.25 mil in cap space.

    So assuming they make the two cuts mentioned, that's 6 mil in cap space, BUT not counting in Will Allen's deal yet. Also, consider that they still need to tender RFA, ERFA, and have rookie cap room.

    Can't be done yet, but as I said, they'd find a way and they did. Just painfully.
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    Re: Worst salary caps? Cowboys, Saints, Steelers lead way

    I have not even seen the report - thanks for the news. It seems they do have some work to do!

    Quote Originally Posted by RavenScallywag View Post
    Clark is not on the books for 2014, according to OverTheCap.com. Neither is The Beard.

    http://overthecap.com/teamcap.php?Te...lers&Year=2014

    Looks like it's updated with Heath's new deal, but not yet with Polamalu's. Before Polamalu extension, Steelers still 11.673 over the cap. Ian Rapoport says Polamalu's cap number lowered by 4.5 mil. And as said before, Ike and Levi would create 13.25 mil in cap space.

    So assuming they make the two cuts mentioned, that's 6 mil in cap space, BUT not counting in Will Allen's deal yet. Also, consider that they still need to tender RFA, ERFA, and have rookie cap room.

    Can't be done yet, but as I said, they'd find a way and they did. Just painfully.




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    Re: Worst salary caps? Cowboys, Saints, Steelers lead way

    That site does a pretty good job of breaking down the numbers, also includes as "Top 51" entry to track for when the team goes over the 51 roster spots used to calculate the cap. Also includes contract numbers in future years so you can begin prognosticating.
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    Re: Worst salary caps? Cowboys, Saints, Steelers lead way

    Cut Levi Brown, Curtis Brown, Larry Foote

    Levi saves 6.25 mil, Curtis and Larry save 1.81 mil

    That gets them under the cap by 887k. Enough to survive Monday's "cap compliance" level.
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    Re: Worst salary caps? Cowboys, Saints, Steelers lead way

    Thanks for the follow up - you seem quite schooled in the ways and means of the seedy underbelly of contracts and such. I saw your other post in regard to being 887K under the cap - celebrate, yaaaayyyyy! Just kidding of course, they have much work to do . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by RavenScallywag View Post
    That site does a pretty good job of breaking down the numbers, also includes as "Top 51" entry to track for when the team goes over the 51 roster spots used to calculate the cap. Also includes contract numbers in future years so you can begin prognosticating.




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    Re: Worst salary caps? Cowboys, Saints, Steelers lead way

    Quote Originally Posted by Complex View Post
    Thanks for the follow up - you seem quite schooled in the ways and means of the seedy underbelly of contracts and such. I saw your other post in regard to being 887K under the cap - celebrate, yaaaayyyyy! Just kidding of course, they have much work to do . . .

    Every year I see these "steelers are in cap hell" threads and every year they figure it out. I don't see why this year will be any different. They have smart football guys like the rest of the league
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    Re: Worst salary caps? Cowboys, Saints, Steelers lead way

    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenswintitle View Post
    Every year I see these "steelers are in cap hell" threads and every year they figure it out. I don't see why this year will be any different. They have smart football guys like the rest of the league
    They figure it out, but they continue to create messes to deal with down the road as well.

    Polamalu has cap hits of 8 mil dollars in the next two years of his deal. If he declines in production, that's going to be pretty painful. Basically, they are making moves to hold a team together, not to rebuild with youth.

    That said, they are feeling the pain points of this stuff now. Emmanuel Sanders is all but gone, they have no shot of bringing him back. They lost Mike Wallace last year, and while they managed to have a decent offense last year, they also sure missed his presence.

    They just restructured Antonio Brown to add 4.5 mil in cap space. That gives them room for rookie pool and/or ERFA/RFA tenders. They are going to need to get a long term deal with Worlids to really help the cap out. That and releasing Ike Taylor are the remaining big moves.
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    Re: Worst salary caps? Cowboys, Saints, Steelers lead way

    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenswintitle View Post
    Every year I see these "steelers are in cap hell" threads and every year they figure it out. I don't see why this year will be any different. They have smart football guys like the rest of the league
    The steelers are always hopeful that the team will make post season every year. So far that hasn't happened these last 2 years. BR is great at what he does and with some luck, they could make post season this year. Their ability to escape cap hell has been happening for the last several years. They need to win this year to justify their ways. Rooney's are patient, but typical fans may not be. Have to wonder how long BR lasts and when the steelers start to rebuild, starting with a new QB. Like the ravens, steeler have lots of issues to deal with, fortunately they were winning the last part of their schedule and were coming together. Have to wait to see who leaves and who the steelers acquire this off season.




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