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    Re: Season in a microcosm....one play



    Quote Originally Posted by Corey View Post
    The Ravens season is exactly what should have been expected. You dont face a mass exodus of talent, where you barely replace them and come back as strong as before. The roster turnover in itself was enough to do us in but you add the extra chefs to the kitchen... what did we really expect? For these guys to still be in the hunt speaks volume.

    Failure is the 2 win Texans, or the 4 win Falcons, or how about those 3 win Redskins. I know we fell off but those three fanbases had an even bjgger harder fall. We can say a bounce here or abounce there and this is a different season, they cant.
    Agree for the most part, particularly about what truly constitutes "failure". However, I'm sorta curious about this "mass exodus of talent" to which you are referring.

    Most of the talent that we lost was replaced with equal/improved talent. This wasn't about losing Reed, Kruger, Cary Williams, etc. Those loses really haven't hurt us.

    This was about so many of our backbone veterans regressing at the same time, mainly on offense (Oher, McKinnie, Rice, Flacco, Yanda).

    More than that, though, this season has been about utter failure by our coordinators. I've never seen the Ravens play so scared and conservatively and predictably. Yet, when the situation calls for conservative, unflashy play, they suddenly take a needless gamble.

    In watching the Patriots yesterday, it was a reminder of how a well-coached team plays. Corner blitzes. Varied defensive looks. 6 yard passes on 3rd-and-4, not 20 yard passes. Attacking the middle of the field. The Ravens are so vanilla is annoying.

    Lastly, yesterday was my first time watching Tom Brady live. Brady is remarkably good at not locking in on one receiver. He sees the field so well. If there is ever an open receiver, the ball is there timely and accurately. Flacco missed so many wide open receivers yesterday that it was agonizing. Even a few of his completions to Torrey Smith came when Smith was open for a full 3-4 seconds before Flacco finally found him. It resulted in a completion, but not a big play. Flacco was so inaccurate yesterday that when he did find an open receiver, the ball was frequently behind the receiver, causing him to slow down and reduce the YAC.

    Oh yea, one last thing, in my mind, it's UN-fucking-excusable to not have Tyrod Taylor in on short yardage plays and ALL plays inside the 5 yard line. I really don't care about Flacco's ego. When our offense is struggling the way it did, and we have an instant energizer on the bench not being used, that's yet another coaching failure.




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    Re: Season in a microcosm....one play

    Quote Originally Posted by NCRavensFan View Post
    As I reflect on one of the most horrific games in team history, it struck me that one play in the game really summarized the whole season at once.

    The 4th and 1 from the 4.

    It had all the elements of the 2013 Ravens.

    Just the fact that we had to be in a 4th down situation there to begin with
    A terrible play call
    A terrible play call .... following a time out!
    A hand off to Ray Rice who can't get a yard and a half.
    The O-Line with no push
    Futility
    Failure

    That play defines the 2013 Ravens for me.
    In my opinion Flacco is audibling(sp) into these crappy runs. I don't believe that was the play call in this game or in the GB and other games.




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    Re: Season in a microcosm....one play

    Quote Originally Posted by GaTechRavens View Post
    Save that for the Texans. A team with a winning record is not defined by failure. My God, we have spoiled fans...
    Ga, I just started reading this thread, and have to agree with you. Now of course the Ravens could have been better this year, but OMG aren't we lucky to be in the Harbaugh/Flacco era? I feel that 20 years from now we will look onto these seasons are a Golden Age in Ravens history. I feel sorry for those who don't see it because they're losing out on a historic, emotional period that should be admired by Ravens fans... Bc




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    Quote Originally Posted by BcRaven View Post
    Ga, I just started reading this thread, and have to agree with you. Now of course the Ravens could have been better this year, but OMG aren't we lucky to be in the Harbaugh/Flacco era? I feel that 20 years from now we will look onto these seasons are a Golden Age in Ravens history. I feel sorry for those who don't see it because they're losing out on a historic, emotional period that should be admired by Ravens fans... Bc
    Personally...this is where I am at the moment...as painful and disappointing as yesterday's game...you don't get that disappointment and pain without being in the hunt in the first place with a lot on the line...and I am grateful they get one more meaningful game to get into the playoffs.




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    Re: Season in a microcosm....one play

    Quote Originally Posted by GaTechRavens View Post
    Save that for the Texans. A team with a winning record is not defined by failure. My God, we have spoiled fans...
    The Ravens are a two-time SB winner franchise. Ravens fans have high expectations. It comes with the territory.

    And I agree that the O-line futility on running plays defines this season. They are average in pass-blocking but terrible in run-blocking. And an O-line that can't run-block is demoralizing to the whole team. They should consider changing things on the O-line as the top priority for next year.




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    Re: Season in a microcosm....one play

    All I can say is......... When we work out of the huddle it is awful. When we work out of the NO HUDDLE we move the ball. Just sayin




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    Re: Season in a microcosm....one play

    As a fan, I hope the team is in playoff contention through Week 17. And they have met my expectations, obviously.

    Sure beats being a Browns, Lions, etc. fan.


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    Been a different year with more then enough losses, but it's been exciting. Ravens have been in it except for 2 games(Denver,Pats). If Harbaugh(and I say again, this season's results are on him) kicks field goals earlier, last 6 minutes would have been different. Tucker missing was the death blow, showing the game plan was horrible. Harbaugh needs to stick to scoring whatever is given to him. Pushing the OL to do something it hasn't done all season and asking Rice to do the same is crazy. Last nights game reminded me of the game at Denver last season. Coaching has to be better and Flacco needs to be healthy, the knee injury was a problem(ask Phil Simms LOL). Been a good year, with what the Ravens have had to deal with.




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    Re: Season in a microcosm....one play

    Quote Originally Posted by LukeDaniel View Post
    Agree for the most part, particularly about what truly constitutes "failure". However, I'm sorta curious about this "mass exodus of talent" to which you are referring.

    Most of the talent that we lost was replaced with equal/improved talent. This wasn't about losing Reed, Kruger, Cary Williams, etc. Those loses really haven't hurt us.

    This was about so many of our backbone veterans regressing at the same time, mainly on offense (Oher, McKinnie, Rice, Flacco, Yanda).

    More than that, though, this season has been about utter failure by our coordinators. I've never seen the Ravens play so scared and conservatively and predictably. Yet, when the situation calls for conservative, unflashy play, they suddenly take a needless gamble.

    In watching the Patriots yesterday, it was a reminder of how a well-coached team plays. Corner blitzes. Varied defensive looks. 6 yard passes on 3rd-and-4, not 20 yard passes. Attacking the middle of the field. The Ravens are so vanilla is annoying.

    Lastly, yesterday was my first time watching Tom Brady live. Brady is remarkably good at not locking in on one receiver. He sees the field so well. If there is ever an open receiver, the ball is there timely and accurately. Flacco missed so many wide open receivers yesterday that it was agonizing. Even a few of his completions to Torrey Smith came when Smith was open for a full 3-4 seconds before Flacco finally found him. It resulted in a completion, but not a big play. Flacco was so inaccurate yesterday that when he did find an open receiver, the ball was frequently behind the receiver, causing him to slow down and reduce the YAC.

    Oh yea, one last thing, in my mind, it's UN-fucking-excusable to not have Tyrod Taylor in on short yardage plays and ALL plays inside the 5 yard line. I really don't care about Flacco's ego. When our offense is struggling the way it did, and we have an instant energizer on the bench not being used, that's yet another coaching failure.
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