The Ravens organization is stuck in the past.

iggyman555 · 12-23-2013, 02:07 PM

Originally Posted by wickedsolo

But how do you know that?

he had no input in the game plan LMAO

**Ravensghost** · 12-23-2013, 02:07 PM

So we fired cam, but still use his playbook? Nice way to screw over your new O coordinator. Bad oline, banged up running backs, and a playbook that should have been set on fire last year. Caldwell needs a another year to install his own playbook before he is cast off.

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**Jsmoove** · 12-23-2013, 02:08 PM

Originally Posted by Ravenswintitle

It's fun as hell to watch the defense look at each other like 'what now?' A few times they ran those bunch receivers out there, one time they had five TEs on the field - five! Very innovative and fast

now thats creativity the tempo, the various routes, the various formations I can't tell what they are doing, mind you i have never played on any pro level after college and i can call the ravens plays out and know who is suppose to get the ball..smh its a damn shame.

iggyman555 · 12-23-2013, 02:08 PM

Originally Posted by BcRaven

I don't think Harbs gets "too much credit". If the players bailed him/coaching staff out a lot, then why even have a coaching staff? Perhaps you would rather have Garrett or Rex Ryan as HC (?) ... Bc

no im fine with his as head coach. he needs better assistants and change up the philosophy a bit

**wickedsolo** · 12-23-2013, 02:09 PM

Originally Posted by iggyman555

he had no input in the game plan LMAO

I don't know why you're laughing about something that you can't prove.

It is also probably fundamentally inaccurate.

You could argue that the game plan, both offensively and defensively, was hot garbage...

I can't think of any head coach that has not had input on everything.

**Jsmoove** · 12-23-2013, 02:10 PM

Originally Posted by Ravensghost

So we fired cam, but still use his playbook? Nice way to screw over your new O coordinator. Bad oline, banged up running backs, and a playbook that should have been set on fire last year. Caldwell needs a another year to install his own playbook before he is cast off.

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thats what we all thought we figured after a whole offseason with caldwell we would see some shit that looks like an nfl offense instead look what they got.

**ERey** · 12-23-2013, 02:20 PM

Originally Posted by Brien Jackson

Well, if you want to get literal like that, how old is the pistol formation? 60 years?

60 years? Now I see the issue with our debate.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pistol_offense

**Ravenswintitle** · 12-23-2013, 02:22 PM

Originally Posted by ERey

60 years? Now I see the issue with our debate.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pistol_offense

But Cossel said it was outdated! He can't be wrong :DeadHorse:

**BcRaven** · 12-23-2013, 02:24 PM

Originally Posted by Ravenswintitle

But Cossel said it was outdated! He can't be wrong :DeadHorse:

If you anagram Cossel, it comes out "OC less" like the current state of Ravens offensive affairs... Bc

**Brien Jackson** · 12-23-2013, 02:27 PM

Originally Posted by Jsmoove

thats what we all thought we figured after a whole offseason with caldwell we would see some shit that looks like an nfl offense instead look what they got.

To be totally fair, they could have a perfectly fine offense running more or less the same basic system they're using now. Flacco certainly has the skill set to make it work. But if that's what they want to do, they have to make it a point to get other players who fit the same system, namely big physical wide receivers who can use their body to create additional separation and pull in contested passes with decent regularity. Their primary problem is that they don't really get that type of player, and too much of their play design assumes receivers like Torrey or Jacoby are just going to be able to run away from defensive backs all the time.

**pslholder96** · 12-23-2013, 02:29 PM

Originally Posted by Jsmoove

How is it you watch teams like the eagles who have nick fuckin foles have wrs wide the fuck open every game with how bad their Oline is?? How is it saints year in year out have wideouts running wide the hell open, green bay under fuckin matt flynn and that Oline have guys open all day they can make a sammich drink some kool aid and still be wide the fuck open shit look at cinci's offense fuck even the damn vikings ONLY THE MUTHA FUCKIN RAVENS AFTER 10 FUCKIN YEARS STILL CANT FIGURE THIS SHIT OUT??? If i know wtf they are goin to run before they run you know damn well every nfl coach knows wtf they are about to run!!

Have the eagles and Cincy won a superbowl lately?
Saints haven't won anything since 2009 and GB since 2010